# Fake sealed Plasma Blast box? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** general-board, upccc-archive\ **Created:** [February 3, 2014, 3:50am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713 "2014-02-03T03:50:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![churlocker](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/churlocker/32/100762_2.png) [@churlocker](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/churlocker)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713/22 "2014-02-10T23:49:21Z")
> [@anon92205803](#): > > What makes you certain it wasn’t an accident? I bought a sealed box from someone locally with similar non-official plastic, and when I opened them in front of them they were fake. I had to explain counterfeit cards to him because he had no idea people counterfeited whole boxes of cards, and he had acquired it from some kind of local auction and assumed it was legit. He appologized and refunded everything to me like your seller did. Your cards might even be authentic, though unsealed. It doesn’t seem reasonable to give them negative or neutral feedback after they did everything necessary to make sure you didn’t lose anything in the transaction. This is exactly how I feel about it. What he does with the box at this point is not what you are rating him on. You are giving a rating about YOUR experience. Because he was so kind and apologetic, it wouldn’t be right to give him a negative reference. While it was a disappointment to you, you are out nothing and he assumed the total loss on the deal. He’s been an A+ person to deal with, from what I can see hear. So no feedback is definitely the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![elam18](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/elam18/32/294_2.png) [@elam18](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/elam18)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 11:52pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713/23 "2014-02-10T23:52:09Z")
I would agree with Scott. No feedback would be the best. ---
**Author:** ![dontbeapokekid](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dontbeapokekid/32/244_2.png) [@dontbeapokekid](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/dontbeapokekid)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713/24 "2014-02-10T23:54:12Z")
I’m not quite convinced either way. I really don’t plan to pursue it any further, but the discussion is interesting. ---
**Author:** ![japanime](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/japanime/32/290_2.png) [@japanime](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/japanime)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713/25 "2014-02-10T23:59:56Z")
> [@dontbeapokekid](#): > > I guess the thing is the fact it was for a sealed, unopened box of cards. The box looks like, as someone mentioned, it was run over by a truck, not to mention seran wrap covering only 2/3 of the box and glued down in certain areas. He also had a stock photo of a blast box, so he knows what it looks like. Also, several of his other auctions were for cards (some expensive EX), which leads me to believe it wasn’t an accident and he knows at least some about Pokemon cards. I guess I just wouldn’t want someone else to go through this process; one which the seller isn’t even obligated to pay return shipping (I was lucky). I understand where you’re coming from, and your desire to protect others from potential bad deals is noble. But it’s not your duty — and in this case, I think it would be unfair to the seller. He or she apologized and handled the return in a professional, mature manner. If you were to leave negative feedback, it would come off as vindictive and immature. ---
**Author:** ![dontbeapokekid](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dontbeapokekid/32/244_2.png) [@dontbeapokekid](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/dontbeapokekid)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 12:09am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713/27 "2014-02-11T00:09:15Z")
> [@japanime](#): > > > [@dontbeapokekid](#): > > > > I guess the thing is the fact it was for a sealed, unopened box of cards. The box looks like, as someone mentioned, it was run over by a truck, not to mention seran wrap covering only 2/3 of the box and glued down in certain areas. He also had a stock photo of a blast box, so he knows what it looks like. Also, several of his other auctions were for cards (some expensive EX), which leads me to believe it wasn’t an accident and he knows at least some about Pokemon cards. I guess I just wouldn’t want someone else to go through this process; one which the seller isn’t even obligated to pay return shipping (I was lucky). > > I understand where you’re coming from, and your desire to protect others from potential bad deals is noble. But it’s not your duty — and in this case, I think it would be unfair to the seller. > > He or she apologized and handled the return in a professional, mature manner. If you were to leave negative feedback, it would come off as vindictive and immature. I believe that’s the whole point of feedback. It puts the duty of rating sellers, based on several categories, in the hands of the buyers; so, I have to disagree with you on the first comment. Also, if people didn’t care as much as it seems right now, I wouldn’t have had several requests for his name/listing. That is why I suggested a neutral rating; it wouldn’t necessarily implicate him/her, but it just puts it out there that there was, at least, a minor issue. This is why I also mentioned it wasn’t a huge deal, but what if this had been a much larger transaction where the seller loses a big chunk of money? I am actually pleased with how nice he’s been. Despite this, looking at the evidence tells me he got caught doing something he thought he could get away with; just because someone is apologetic after he/she gets caught doesn’t mean that the bad action goes away. If this was the case, there would be about 5 people in each federal prison. ---
**Author:** ![dontbeapokekid](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dontbeapokekid/32/244_2.png) [@dontbeapokekid](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/dontbeapokekid)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713/28 "2014-02-11T00:11:23Z")
> [@anon92205803](#): > > It sounds like they are a new seller or don’t know what they are doing. Even a scammer wouldn’t send a box like that, they probably figured you didn’t care if it was in the original plastic because you’re getting the sealed packs no matter how ugly the box is. If they knew about things like pack weighing and card distribution in sealed boxes, they wouldn’t have made it so obvious that the box was opened. This was probably a learning experience for them. We both have a similar amount of feedback. Maybe he thought my low feedback equated to a lack of knowledge? It’s just as easy to assume that as it is to assume he was clueless. Why assume one but not the other? I just want to know why you would give the benefit of the doubt to the seller here. ---
**Author:** ![dontbeapokekid](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dontbeapokekid/32/244_2.png) [@dontbeapokekid](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/dontbeapokekid)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713/30 "2014-02-11T00:36:23Z")
> [@anon92205803](#): > > **1) Because you would have to have half a brain to think that a box in the condition that you described could be considered “sealed”**, so I have to assume they made a mistake, like **2) maybe they thought you just wanted sealed packs so they threw the equivalent of a box of packs into some box they had laying around.** If they were trying to scam you, 3) **they would have made the box appear sealed.** The description of the box is so obviously unsealed that I have to think **4) they didn’t know what sealed means**. 5) **It isn’t as easy to assume malicious intent as it is cluelessness, especially given that they did more than they needed to make it right for you, and they apparently have other feedback which is positive.** 1. Isn’t that the type of person that would think it’s reasonable to do this in the first place? 2. If this was the case, it would have been much easier to say 36 booster packs in a box that is unsealed rather than ‘a brand new, unopened, sealed booster box’ along with a factory-sealed picture that didn’t belong to him/her. 3. See number 1. 4. wat 5. Of course the person made it right. What would anyone do after getting caught trying to screw with someone, especially involving money? Apologize. “More than they needed?” What part of this entire situation did he go out of his/her way? He sold me a fraudulent, misleading listing, and returned my money. This sounds pretty standard to me. Other positive feedback does not mean the person is incapable of trying to mislead a buyer, just as everything that’s happened doesn’t necessarily mean this seller is guilty. Like I mentioned, I’m just curious to hear peoples’ thoughts, because I can guarantee if this happened to anyone here, the first thing would be, “Wow, I got scammed… this sucks.” ---
**Author:** ![pokemontrader](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokemontrader/32/260_2.png) [@pokemontrader](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokemontrader)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713/31 "2014-02-11T00:38:25Z")
-sigh- ---
**Author:** ![dontbeapokekid](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dontbeapokekid/32/244_2.png) [@dontbeapokekid](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/dontbeapokekid)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 12:40am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713/32 "2014-02-11T00:40:55Z")
> [@pokemontrader](#): > > -sigh- Significant contribution to the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![churlocker](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/churlocker/32/100762_2.png) [@churlocker](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/churlocker)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 12:49am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713/33 "2014-02-11T00:49:05Z")
I’m locking this thread because I feel like there has been a fair amount of response to the original question and this is going nowhere. Ultimately, @dontbeapokekid, it is up to you. But the general, educated consensus is that you should not leave feedback. There is nothing more people can tell you. Best of luck to you. Congratulations on your refund. [Previous page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-sealed-plasma-blast-box/11713.md?page=1)