# Fake BGS Cards? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [February 27, 2018, 5:25am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631 "2018-02-27T05:25:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![willyboy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/willyboy/32/717_2.png) [@willyboy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/willyboy)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:25am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/1 "2018-02-27T05:25:04Z")
Hey all! Was just curious if this card is fake, the spacing on the HP is definitely not quite right and everything else just looks a bit off. If it’s fake you’d think the grader would’ve noticed the lack of texture? unless they can imitate texturing now? Looks like a reputable seller… [www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Pokemon-Black-White-Next-Destinies-98-Mewtwo-EX-Full-Art-Holo-BGS-9/222835140719?hash=item33e202686f:g:85MAAOSwn9VaWYeW](https://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Pokemon-Black-White-Next-Destinies-98-Mewtwo-EX-Full-Art-Holo-BGS-9/222835140719?hash=item33e202686f:g:85MAAOSwn9VaWYeW) ---
**Author:** ![willyboy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/willyboy/32/717_2.png) [@willyboy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/willyboy)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:27am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/2 "2018-02-27T05:27:39Z")
Just tried to verify the cert and there’s no record… That’s quite an elaborate fake. ---
**Author:** ![Pbali](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pbali/32/360_2.png) [@Pbali](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Pbali)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:35am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/3 "2018-02-27T05:35:16Z")
It’s a real slab, just looked up the cert and it was correct. You may have entered in the cert # wrong. ---
**Author:** ![willyboy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/willyboy/32/717_2.png) [@willyboy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/willyboy)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/4 "2018-02-27T05:37:35Z")
> [@Pbali](#): > > It’s a real slab, just looked up the cert and it was correct. You may have entered in the cert # wrong. No I think I was using the wrong tool, this one must be for something else? [beckett-authentication.com/verify-certificate](http://beckett-authentication.com/verify-certificate) ---
**Author:** ![Pbali](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pbali/32/360_2.png) [@Pbali](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Pbali)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:39am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/5 "2018-02-27T05:39:55Z")
> [@willyboy](#): > > > [@Pbali](#): > > > > It’s a real slab, just looked up the cert and it was correct. You may have entered in the cert # wrong. > > No I think I was using the wrong tool, this one must be for something else? [beckett-authentication.com/verify-certificate](http://beckett-authentication.com/verify-certificate) Yup, that is a different kind of slab ---
**Author:** ![smpratte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smpratte/32/79511_2.png) [@smpratte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smpratte)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:26am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/6 "2018-02-27T06:26:37Z")
Yes that is a fake card. [Here](https://i.imgur.com/760OQAz.png) is the real example. [Here](https://i.imgur.com/3QwHyg6.jpg) is the fake. Notice at the top left corner where it reads “basic” the [fake](https://i.imgur.com/3QwHyg6.jpg) is the incorrect color. Also the energies look different, the texture is different, and the “Pokemon ex rule” is mis-aligned on the fake. Notice how on the [real](https://i.imgur.com/760OQAz.png) copy the first sentence in the Pokemon ex rule is indented, and on the fake it is not. ---
**Author:** ![ptccards](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/ptccards/32/862_2.png) [@ptccards](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/ptccards)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/7 "2018-02-27T06:32:40Z")
Dang fake are getting through bgs … This is not a good sign 😭 ---
**Author:** ![willyboy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/willyboy/32/717_2.png) [@willyboy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/willyboy)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:35am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/8 "2018-02-27T06:35:25Z")
I’m surprised it slipped past BGS… It’s a pretty terrible fake, maybe it slipped past because it’s not a very high end card? ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:24am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/9 "2018-02-27T07:24:05Z")
Good eye, @willyboy ---
**Author:** ![cman](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cman/32/262_2.png) [@cman](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cman)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:49am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/10 "2018-02-27T07:49:10Z")
That’s… embarrassing. ---
**Author:** ![milhouse](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/milhouse/32/326_2.png) [@milhouse](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/milhouse)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 9:40am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/11 "2018-02-27T09:40:27Z")
Found a picture of the person who authenticated the card ![](http://puu.sh/zwH9Z/f489b25f14.png) ---
**Author:** ![fourthstartcg](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fourthstartcg/32/163893_2.png) [@fourthstartcg](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fourthstartcg)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/12 "2018-02-27T13:14:46Z")
Live look-in at the “BGS is better than PSA” people ![](https://i.imgur.com/HlCyD3X.gif) ---
**Author:** ![null\_user](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/null_user/32/97793_2.png) [@null\_user](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/null_user)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/13 "2018-02-27T13:19:14Z")
rip me selling chinese bgs on eBay…from China. ---
**Author:** ![deaddarkrai](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/deaddarkrai/32/880_2.png) [@deaddarkrai](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/deaddarkrai)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/14 "2018-02-27T15:19:54Z")
> [@fourthstartcg](#): > > Live look-in at the “BGS is better than PSA” people > > ![](https://i.imgur.com/HlCyD3X.gif) Although BGS doesnt destroy gem mint shadowless venusaurs by denting them with their machine press. ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/15 "2018-02-27T16:05:48Z")
> [@deaddarkrai](#): > > > [@fourthstartcg](#): > > > > Live look-in at the “BGS is better than PSA” people > > > > ![](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1425ca983c3c7ca46009bce3e7dae839f6fe2e4c.gif) > > Although BGS doesnt destroy gem mint shadowless venusaurs by denting them with their machine press. At least when Billy does damage a card, you’re entitled to compensation through PSA. With BGS you’re SOL if you end up buying this card. ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-cards/19631/16 "2018-02-28T01:05:37Z")
I happen to know him and let him know. I’m sure he’ll close it.