# Fake Auto Database **URL:** \ **Category:** Articles\ **Tags:** database\ **Created:** [May 26, 2025, 10:08am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273 "2025-05-26T10:08:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 10:08am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/1 "2025-05-26T10:08:09Z")
I’m building a [database of PSA aunthenticated forgeries here.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KOAhRZGJygZyF6nFZ3QDxyMieYMHlCCPkaM8F-r-Rlw/edit?usp=sharing) If you want to help: 1. post an image of the slab with the cert number and the auto in question clearly visible 2. Post the reason why you think the signature is a forgery i.e. - Confirmed Fake by Artist (include link) - Deactivated by Grader - Suspicious Signature - Post Event Sketch Any forged signature graded by any authenticator is worthwhile to post. **Bonus points** if you can find a forgery cert earlier than these ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/optimized/3X/b/8/b8174d09b0bb15f77088129ae60df7107322e06d_2_690x71.png) ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 10:08am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/2 "2025-05-26T10:08:48Z")
I’ve scrubbed the [PSA/DNA Pokemon autograph authentication is in a bad place](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-dna-pokemon-autograph-authentication-is-in-a-bad-place/46557) thread, let me know if there are other good resources available. ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 1:01pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/3 "2025-05-26T13:01:46Z")
[https://www.psacard.com/cert/84544042/psa](https://www.psacard.com/cert/84544042/psa) I don’t know if the Arita autos from that thread are fake or just really bad, but I’m not sure if they should be confidently put onto a fake autograph list ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/4 "2025-05-26T13:04:13Z")
Thank you for heads up, removed for the time being ---
**Author:** ![tidaldreams](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/tidaldreams/32/26292_2.png) [@tidaldreams](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/tidaldreams)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 1:36am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/5 "2025-05-27T01:36:51Z")
you can pretty much label all those colored in charizards, garys etc except maybe the first one if that meets your criteria ---
**Author:** ![Keishara](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keishara/32/96557_2.png) [@Keishara](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Keishara)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 11:01am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/6 "2025-05-30T11:01:39Z")
[https://ebay.us/m/uZ3bP6](https://ebay.us/m/uZ3bP6) ![Screenshot_20250530_195831_eBay](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/f/6/f679f44ceb037fe390fbf59bf349d7beb3e0c7b4.jpeg) This was recently listed but the auto appears fake. The さ is wonky, the お is missing the trailing dot and the pikachu sketch appears to be a poor copy ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 1:03pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/7 "2025-05-30T13:03:02Z")
Keep them coming! > [@tidaldreams](#): > > you can pretty much label all those colored in charizards, garys etc except maybe the first one if that meets your criteria Are those considered fakes? If so not sure how to distinguish which ones are which ---
**Author:** ![tidaldreams](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/tidaldreams/32/26292_2.png) [@tidaldreams](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/tidaldreams)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/8 "2025-05-30T23:59:27Z")
the auto is real technically, but kinda loses the whole spirit for the thing. they are “fake” in the sense that i would pay more for without the color by number than with it 🤣 imo they should designate with authentic altered ---
**Author:** ![cpbog1](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cpbog1/32/335_2.png) [@cpbog1](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cpbog1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 12:09am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/9 "2025-05-31T00:09:31Z")
This is a really great idea, thanks for initiating this, @banks. In your spreadsheet, do you think there should be a “Comments” column to add clarity for the suspected cards, or would that be too excessive? Tagging Mr. @swolepoke in case he has spare time on his hands with the ones he previously identified. cpbog1 ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 8:43am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/10 "2025-05-31T08:43:30Z")
I think comments are a good idea, added! > [@Keishara](#): > > This was recently listed but the auto appears fake. The さ is wonky, the お is missing the trailing dot and the pikachu sketch appears to be a poor copy Added to the database! > [@tidaldreams](#): > > imo they should designate with authentic altered I see where you are coming from, will sleep on it. Curious where others stand on the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Pkmnhawaii\_collector](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pkmnhawaii_collector/32/157826_2.png) [@Pkmnhawaii\_collector](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Pkmnhawaii_collector)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 9:12am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/11 "2025-05-31T09:12:04Z")
If you’ve seen @swolepoke’s insta he’s very good at letting people know about fake autos that have been popping up. This was the latest fake Tokiya auto ![Screenshot_20250530_230920](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/0/2/02fc7c68757c5ab4fef1487e54c2af53d90461a3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 9:55am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/12 "2025-05-31T09:55:59Z")
Thank you for sharing, added a tab for CGC slabs :pikajoy: ---
**Author:** ![swolepoke](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/swolepoke/32/26930_2.png) [@swolepoke](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/swolepoke)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:35am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/14 "2025-06-03T04:35:34Z")
Probsteins latest auction block are all fake autos. I’ll provide references of the real ones they’re copied off of soon. ![IMG_8357](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/1/4/144b03d2834ac1455b1d32efff08e5e1c066b844.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![swolepoke](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/swolepoke/32/26930_2.png) [@swolepoke](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/swolepoke)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:42am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/15 "2025-06-03T04:42:14Z")
Source of real Lugia: > **[爆誕のルギア(福田正和氏サイン入り) | Lugia Collection Museum | MUUSEO 205467](https://muuseo.com/s_o_resistance/items/6?theme_id=11995)** > > 爆誕のルギアイラストレーター福田正和氏のサイン入り \[ジャンル\] トレーディングカード \[メーカー名\] ポケモン \[レア度\] 5 by ソラミュージアム 【みんなの「ポケモン」コレクション】 ![IMG_8364](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/5/3/536aac4b83c4f4e1f6b219e313ebc6a0b1465dc9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![swolepoke](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/swolepoke/32/26930_2.png) [@swolepoke](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/swolepoke)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:43am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/16 "2025-06-03T04:43:09Z")
Source of real Mewtwo: [https://www.instagram.com/p/DC13p7fRFqd/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==](https://www.instagram.com/p/DC13p7fRFqd/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==) ![IMG_8365](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/c/0/c095366e75b7e98f531062dc6d099a5e7db296ed.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![wooltchi](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/wooltchi/32/2438_2.png) [@wooltchi](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/wooltchi)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 5:57am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/17 "2025-06-03T05:57:24Z")
Swole doing god’s work. This is why I don’t touch autos with a 10 ft pole. ---
**Author:** ![stagger12](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stagger12/32/290368_2.png) [@stagger12](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stagger12)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 7:41am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/18 "2025-06-03T07:41:20Z")
These posts always make me nervous. Especially this one since I bought a couple cheap autos from probstein over a year ago ---
**Author:** ![swolepoke](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/swolepoke/32/26930_2.png) [@swolepoke](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/swolepoke)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/19 "2025-06-03T13:38:07Z")
The real Charizard has been found 👍🏻 The owner of it reached out to me with it. ![IMG_8377](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/c/2/c23cdeaec7d8266ca6033c8eb1123fc8cbe3912a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Will](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/will/32/223509_2.png) [@Will](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Will)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/20 "2025-06-04T14:27:50Z")
![Screenshot_20250604_092405_Chrome](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/e/8/e80c3a143adb9f94cb32f8f7d81ebb67e9d5a37c.jpeg) Notorious fake auto seller on mercari is wily, trying to act like this is slabbed by PSA and just blurring out the cert. But this is a fake Naoki Saito autograph, and the blurred slab is for a Midori Harada autograph Might be a copy of this on slab auto from ebay ![Screenshot_20250604_094231_eBay](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/9/9/996fd8c607ae106ed4bcda17bd77a5fe6d68685c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Quuador](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/quuador/32/237215_2.png) [@Quuador](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Quuador)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 5:19pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273/21 "2025-06-04T17:19:37Z")
@swolepoke can possibly confirm, but I think my Ooyama’s signed Ooyama’s Pikachu and Ikue Ōtani signed BREAKthrough Pikachu might both be fake: ![DSC04023](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/c/4/c42c90051b52d22f0ce0b000cab5f65661fc0f0f.jpeg) ![DSC04017](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/6/c/6cbb79bcb49b3dee2ea3503d5698b694d3033d8d.jpeg) Greetz, Quuador [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-auto-database/56273.md?page=2)