# English or Japanese Base Charizard? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** general-board\ **Created:** [February 16, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917 "2020-02-16T15:51:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fireftw\_TCG](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fireftw_tcg/32/545_2.png) [@Fireftw\_TCG](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Fireftw_TCG)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/1 "2020-02-16T15:51:23Z")
I am stuck inside on a rainy/stormy Sunday here in the UK and so I was taking a look over some of my cards and I had some thoughts comparing these two cards side by side. The English card is obviously more nostalgic and I prefer the yellow boarders. However, for me the artwork on the Japanese card has more pop! Its more vivid with the flame from Charizards mouth, I like the holofoil pattern and I think the Japanese characters are more visually attractive too. I would struggle to pick a favourite but in terms aesthetics I feel the Japanese one wins it. (Could be a controversial opinion but hey makes for a more interesting discussion 😉 ) Whats your favourite and why? [![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49543109116_bdb6a76f0d_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/2itXohu) ---
**Author:** ![0ean](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/0ean/32/172996_2.png) [@0ean](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/0ean)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/2 "2020-02-16T16:08:40Z")
Chumlee - “No rarity is the true 1st edition!” Have to agree that the artwork/print does look better on the Japanese than the English. It is the OG after all. ---
**Author:** ![scarecrowman88](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/scarecrowman88/32/1013_2.png) [@scarecrowman88](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/scarecrowman88)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/3 "2020-02-16T16:30:40Z")
Unlimited base Charizard do look a little pale and dull. The shadowless/1st edition prints are a bit more similar to the Japanese. Japanese cards in general do look better, but the nostalgia factor is strong with old English cards! ---
**Author:** ![madden12ut](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/madden12ut/32/1442_2.png) [@madden12ut](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/madden12ut)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/4 "2020-02-16T17:44:55Z")
Gotta go with shadowless 1st\> shadowless \> Japanese \> other language 1st \> unlimited ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/5 "2020-02-16T23:33:42Z")
I wish the foil section of the Japanese was placed into the english. ---
**Author:** ![degreen11](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/degreen11/32/1117_2.png) [@degreen11](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/degreen11)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/6 "2020-02-16T23:46:39Z")
> [@madden12ut](#): > > Gotta go with shadowless 1st\> shadowless \> Japanese \> other language 1st \> unlimited This is correct ---
**Author:** ![papafrankgod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/papafrankgod/32/52139_2.png) [@papafrankgod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/papafrankgod)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/7 "2020-02-17T01:45:19Z")
Japanese all the way, expect for the shadowless layout, I think it has something special to it, colours are very good overall ---
**Author:** ![teamrocketop](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/teamrocketop/32/83548_2.png) [@teamrocketop](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/teamrocketop)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/8 "2020-02-17T03:11:35Z")
Always Japanese, about time someone noticed the pop. Compare any older Japanese cards, the holos pop and have better quality. Just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![gengarbrigade](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gengarbrigade/32/271700_2.png) [@gengarbrigade](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gengarbrigade)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/9 "2020-02-17T03:22:43Z")
> [@KingPokemon](#): > > I wish the foil section of the Japanese was placed into the english. this 👆🏼 ---
**Author:** ![missingno](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/missingno/32/434_2.png) [@missingno](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/missingno)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 5:53am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/10 "2020-02-17T05:53:59Z")
I prefer the Japanese layout a bit more than the English one. I like the finer border on the Japanese cards, I also like how the border is gold opposed to yellow. I like the star pattern on the English holos but I prefer the galaxy holo more, I love when I get a nice swirl. I don’t like how the background on the English variant looks somewhat diluted, almost pink. When I bought my 1st edition copy I made sure it was more on the red shade of orange opposed to the pink or corral shade of orange. I also don’t like how some English shadowless/1st edition Charizard artworks make the creature look a little too tanned, almost like a rusty shade or orange. Mind you it’s only some of them. I absolutely think the Japanese artwork of Charizard is the perfect shade of orange same goes for the background color. Aside from all the color variations I also prefer Japanese characters opposed to the English alphabet, despite me not actually being able to read Japanese. Oddly enough I think the Unlimited variant of the English card has a really sick shade of red for the background. There’s a number of differences that do the job for me in regards to variant preference. But to make it more simple for me it’s: Japanese\>CP6\>Chinese\>Shadowless\>Eng Unlimited\>Evolutions\>others ---
**Author:** ![pokemonargentina](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokemonargentina/32/70617_2.png) [@pokemonargentina](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokemonargentina)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 2:00pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-or-japanese-base-charizard/25917/11 "2020-02-17T14:00:15Z")
Japanese ) Unlimited. The holo pattern kills the english variant!