# English Base set 1st edition cards that aren't shadowless? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** general-board\ **Created:** [November 20, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-base-set-1st-edition-cards-that-arent-shadowless/15208 "2016-11-20T02:30:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pokemaniac151](https://efour-storage.b-cdn.net/avatars/avatar-default.png) [@pokemaniac151](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokemaniac151)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-base-set-1st-edition-cards-that-arent-shadowless/15208/1 "2016-11-20T02:30:15Z")
So ive been seeing cards these english base set cards that have the 1st edition stamp but arent shadowless. Are these cards real or fake? ---
**Author:** ![charchu](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charchu/32/570_2.png) [@charchu](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/charchu)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-base-set-1st-edition-cards-that-arent-shadowless/15208/2 "2016-11-20T02:40:16Z")
They could be foreign base sets~ Are you sure they’re english? ---
**Author:** ![acebren](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/acebren/32/400_2.png) [@acebren](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/acebren)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-base-set-1st-edition-cards-that-arent-shadowless/15208/3 "2016-11-20T03:24:34Z")
English 1st edition base cards are all shadowless, other than the obvious machamp ---
**Author:** ![missingno](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/missingno/32/434_2.png) [@missingno](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/missingno)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-base-set-1st-edition-cards-that-arent-shadowless/15208/4 "2016-11-20T04:11:02Z")
They must be in other languages. ---
**Author:** ![pokemaniac151](https://efour-storage.b-cdn.net/avatars/avatar-default.png) [@pokemaniac151](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokemaniac151)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:45am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-base-set-1st-edition-cards-that-arent-shadowless/15208/5 "2016-11-20T07:45:11Z")
![](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161120/b7d25d7431657d2b54ee7472b03439a0.jpg) Here is a recent one I’ve seen. The Charmander obviously… ---
**Author:** ![jkanly](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jkanly/32/368_2.png) [@jkanly](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jkanly)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 9:10am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-base-set-1st-edition-cards-that-arent-shadowless/15208/6 "2016-11-20T09:10:15Z")
> [@pokemaniac151](#): > > Here is a recent one I’ve seen. The Charmander obviously… Its a fake. All English 1st ed. base (with the holo Machamp being the exception) were printed as shadowless. For example here is a “1st edition” haunter from my collection (also a fake): ![](http://i.imgur.com/zVodw0B.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Quuador](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/quuador/32/237215_2.png) [@Quuador](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Quuador)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 10:30am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-base-set-1st-edition-cards-that-arent-shadowless/15208/7 "2016-11-20T10:30:18Z")
Fake. [I have a Pikachu that is the same (first one).](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/post-some-of-your-fake-but-cool-cards/15153/2) They look very convincing (at least to me), but are definitely fake when you perform the light test on them. Another possibility is that they are a regular unlimited edition on which they’ve added the 1st edition stamp. Either way, they are fake. Greetz, Quuador ---
**Author:** ![pokemaniac151](https://efour-storage.b-cdn.net/avatars/avatar-default.png) [@pokemaniac151](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokemaniac151)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 10:19am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/english-base-set-1st-edition-cards-that-arent-shadowless/15208/8 "2016-11-21T10:19:42Z")
Figured as much. Thanks all for confirming!