Does anyone know if we’re getting the battle deck chien pao in prismatic evolutions?
edit: No lol
O pokemon SIR
Sorry rev pokeball was pull rate for eevees that I stated above same for masterball
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I cant afford to not watch with a title like “Most hyped set ever”, it should be at a million views!
c: Reddit
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Isn’t this how people get robbed?
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As of right now, there aren’t any products listed for alternate Espeon or Umbreon artwork, correct? Asking for an Espeon collector (I’m the Espeon collector)
I’ve only seen the Kanto Eeveelutions from the Poster Collection and Leafeon, Glaceon, and Sylveon from the Sticker thingies
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You are correct. Espeon and Umbreon set cards match the new ones from Japanese
So I did the most surface level check back on what some of the print numbers were boasted by pokemon company during the covid boom. And I just thought I’d rev up the discussion here if someone wants to do better math.
But I’m going to lazily say prismatic surely will have had 1 BILLION cards printed for it by the end of the first full wave of products. So everything from release day, through the additional product drops a few months later. If each booster pack is 10 cards then we can say 100 Million booster packs, yeah yeah but promo cards and stuff. Whatever, quick Maffs.
Anywhoozle, based on that, and pokemon revbert’s pack opening rate of 1/2000 for the umbreon ex SIR that would mean there are roughly 50,000 of them that would be out there. Now what I find interesting here is that unlike in the past, we now how a significant percentage of cards printed which are not being opened, they are being hoarded and stonked by “investors”. So what actual number of cards will end up being out there from people actually opening packs?
Now if i’m way off base on print numbers please go ahead and do a recalculation.
Also i think a better way to calculate the umbreon pull rate would be to take the odds of getting any one particular SIR in this set, which as far as I can tell is 32(blame pokebeach if this is wrong) and to place that with the overall historical new giganerfed SIR pull rates we’ve seen since Temporal forces. I’m going to just call it 1/60 odds.
so 1/60 x 1/32 or 0.01667 x 0.03125 = 0.000520833 = %0.0520833 = 1 in 1920 packs. So if Pocket Monster Revington’s pack opening experience is an umbreon showed up 1 time in 2000 packs, then that is very accurate to this theoretical pull rate. IF this set had booster boxes it would take ~55 booster boxes to get every SIR with no repeats. We will see what the masterball situation is way, im sure getting them all is even worse.
I don’t like this set.
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How did you arrive at the figure of 1 billion cards in the first wave
Here are the total printing numbers for Pokémon cards over the years:
- As of March 2024: Over 64.8 billion cards worldwide in 15 languages across 93 countries and regions
- March 2023: Over 52.9 billion cards worldwide in 14 languages across 89 countries and regions
- March 2022: Over 43.2 billion cards worldwide in 13 languages across 77 countries and regions
- March 2021: Over 34.1 billion cards worldwide in 13 languages across 77 countries and regions
- March 2020: Over 30.4 billion cards worldwide in 13 languages across 77 countries and regions
Between March 2022 and March 2023, they printed 9.7 billion Pokémon cards.
From March 2023 to March 2024, they printed 11.9 billion cards.
When you break that down across all the sets and languages, 1 billion cards for just English in the wave seems far too high, in my opinion.
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Need to factor in the amount of energy bricks and pre constructed deck cards they made. Also it’s 11 billion cards across 11 languages.
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Exactly my issue.
Having an already very bad pull rate for SIR since TF combined with an insane number of SIRs on this set (let alone a lof of the been eeveelutions and what it means for the prices) makes the chance of a single SIR been one of the worst ever, 1/2000 daaamn.
If it was like base SV it may had been better (like 1/1000 ? not good at math :S)
My pocket already hurts 
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Dude, your posts are so hard to understand… I want to comprehend what the hell you are saying but it’s so jumbled and you have nicknames, ramblings, and random words every 2 sentences!
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Take a deep breath, this is a Pokemon forum. Not everyone is skilled at writing. 
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interesting. I didn’t really look or think much about it. Just quickly found a thread talking about covid era print waves. Quite rough. So whatever you think is the average print wave, just go ahead and plug into the math if you so please. I don’t have any idea, as I mentioned. I also kind of tried to be generous as to avoid being a doomsayer about how few umbreon SIR cards there would be, an round whole numbers in base 10 are easier anyhow. Let me know what you calculate out 
EDIT: I’m guessing we don’t have a break down by language, otherwise I imagine you’d have mentioned it. That would be mighty helpful!
SV base set and Paldea evolved both had 1-2 SIRs per booster box. I opened so much paldea evolved that its seared into my brain. And when you got 1, it was because you got a gold card instead of a SIR, which is even more rare. As I recall it was a 1 in 3 chance that the second SIR could be a gold card. So it was a rate of 1.667 SIRs per booster box. So I think that translates to about a 1/21 pull rate for SIRs. These days its roughly 1 SIR in every other booster box. Esentially the pull rate got cut in half twice from a booster box perspective. Paradox rift always had 1 SIR, and then since Temporal forces you get 1 SIR per 2-3 booster boxes. Its hard to really know, so I chose 1/60 which is probably on the more generous end of the estimations. I tried to be more generous to avoid making things sound more dire than they are. but if genchiro is right, which I think he is, we definitely have way less umbreons than I calculated for. But the 1/2000 packs is simply what Rev pulled. I was actually looking to debunk it, and sadly I seem to have confirmed it…
EDIT: oh so I guess to answer your curiosity, if this were still SV base set pull rates, it would be more like, 1/600 packs have umbreon. Something like that.
EDIT EDIT: yup about 1/651
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I can’t divine that. I would simply choose the most generous number. But I didn’t really bother to think too hard on it. But if we bring it down an order of magnitude, then english would get 100m, and thus 5000 umbreon ex SIRs. It just…feels wrong that there would be so few. I don’t have an answer and this is why I said, you can calculate based on what you think the right number is. The real point is the math, and I think I got it right. I’m not a mathologist.
I am one with the schizopost. You have simply not ascended to my plane of existence.
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what is the “correct” number of Umbreon ex SIRs?