# EFour elites **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** sour-grapes\ **Created:** [November 16, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/efour-elites/30552 "2020-11-16T04:20:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1
**Author:** ![matthewevan](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/matthewevan/32/244_2.png) [@matthewevan](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/matthewevan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/efour-elites/30552/1 "2020-11-16T04:20:17Z")
A sour grapes rant New members aren’t really welcomed here. The old guard is very entrenched and set in their ways. Sure- a lot of new people come here to get info on the value of their cards- but instead of being dismissive… wouldn’t it be better for the long term growth of Pokémon and the hobby to teach the new folks about all the cool cards that Pokémon has to offfer? All the sets? All the cool artwork? It’s hard to break into the inner circle and I have already spoken to many new members here who have specifically said they are going to just sell everything because it’s harder to get “in” the community here than it is in the rest of the card world. I know there are a lot of new “flippers” and money men moving in on your lifelong hobby - but do the long time members here have to Make it so hard to be part of the community? Just a sour grapes post- but you guys have so much awesome info- but sometimes seem angry when new folks come in. I don’t know what You know. That’s why I came here to learn. I don’t need heat- I don’t need attitude. And I don’t need every post to be critiqued and turned into an argument. I know you are protective of your world and your community- but take it from me- you are scaring some good people away. And I don’t just mean Logan Paul. 😉. To the many members here who have helped me- thanks! To the folks who read this and got mad… ask yourself why? And maybe you will understand why I posted it… --- _[View the full topic](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/efour-elites/30552)._