# Dismissed. Debated. Still Dancing. The Disco Charizards Aren’t Just Returning—They Haven’t Even Begun **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** charizard, test, cgc\ **Created:** [July 16, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290 "2025-07-16T17:57:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chizardoguy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/chizardoguy/32/107322_2.png) [@Chizardoguy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Chizardoguy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/1 "2025-07-16T17:57:50Z")
This was never meant for the public. It was meant for a printer’s eye. But now that it’s surfaced, it tells a story even clearer than its ink: These aren’t errors. They’re experiments. And the large disco pattern? That’s not a flaw—it’s the first spark of something bold that never got its chance. It’s the Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer of Pokémon cards—different, doubted, and almost forgotten. Until now. ![IMG_8375](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/2/7/271ad3e994d30530e75b780d9a5cd8063f6732b5.jpeg) Uncut. Shadowless layout. 1st Edition stamp. Stage box errors. Disco foil unlike any officially released pattern. The closer you look, the harder it is to call this a fake— and the easier it becomes to believe it was shelved before it ever got a shot. I’ve donated full uncut sheets to museums. I’ve submitted cut versions for material testing at CGC. And I’m not here to convince anyone. I’m just here to get the Zards flying. ---
**Author:** ![wisewailmer](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/wisewailmer/32/179572_2.png) [@wisewailmer](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/wisewailmer)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/2 "2025-07-16T18:01:31Z")
Hell yeah brother ---
**Author:** ![cardstockpile](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cardstockpile/32/26554_2.png) [@cardstockpile](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cardstockpile)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/3 "2025-07-16T18:02:06Z")
🎣 - Genuine items don’t require hype. When museum worthy claims occur, especially during market booms when there is significant $ to be made, skepticism is necessary. ---
**Author:** ![lyleberr](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/lyleberr/32/156919_2.png) [@lyleberr](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/lyleberr)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/4 "2025-07-16T18:03:26Z")
![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/1/0/10c75d4ffe48aa5aff9a784777b52dd048d9fcb7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![lyleberr](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/lyleberr/32/156919_2.png) [@lyleberr](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/lyleberr)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/8 "2025-07-16T18:09:34Z")
![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/e/6/e6ec16a2f759ee72f19f6de0f4252da8dc94eb1d.jpeg) Edit: No fair, the interesting posts that gave hope to the saga this was in reference to were deleted. ---
**Author:** ![smpratte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smpratte/32/79511_2.png) [@smpratte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smpratte)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/9 "2025-07-16T18:32:39Z")
I really just want to see the grading results on these and the others submitted. The more information the better for the cards legacy and value! ---
**Author:** ![lemonofpromise](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/lemonofpromise/32/180722_2.png) [@lemonofpromise](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/lemonofpromise)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/10 "2025-07-16T18:52:56Z")
it’s not really helping your case when you write your post like it’s the premiere of a previously cancelled celebrity’s latest tell-all memoir and cite “museum” donations like that’s supposed to help solidify their standing when we don’t know the actual details. ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/12 "2025-07-16T19:24:28Z")
Me and some of the boys are going to slam poetry at Common Grounds this Thursday, wanna come? ---
**Author:** ![rtas](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/rtas/32/257427_2.png) [@rtas](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/rtas)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/13 "2025-07-16T19:24:29Z")
![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/5/f/5fbc5cde46caa418948c4ac61880694a80d70771.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![bbobrob](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/bbobrob/32/249595_2.png) [@bbobrob](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/bbobrob)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/14 "2025-07-16T19:25:48Z")
![Giant-Thumb-Guy-meme-3](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/5/b/5b92b0af886bd3855fbf56132066418c8e3107d0.png) ---
**Author:** ![octaane](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/octaane/32/1780_2.png) [@octaane](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/octaane)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/15 "2025-07-16T19:25:48Z")
What “museums”? ---
**Author:** ![swolepoke](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/swolepoke/32/26930_2.png) [@swolepoke](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/swolepoke)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/16 "2025-07-16T19:31:41Z")
> [@Chizardoguy](#): > > The closer you look, the harder it is to call this a fake The harder I look, the worst my headache gets. ---
**Author:** ![thsigma](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/thsigma/32/2419_2.png) [@thsigma](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/thsigma)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/17 "2025-07-16T19:44:30Z")
🪩 🕺 💃 ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/18 "2025-07-16T19:50:45Z")
> [@Chizardoguy](#): > > And I’m not here to convince anyone. ok ---
**Author:** ![charizardespana](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charizardespana/32/80713_2.png) [@charizardespana](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/charizardespana)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/19 "2025-07-16T19:57:40Z")
These look so shit lol ---
**Author:** ![Tapp](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/tapp/32/77737_2.png) [@Tapp](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Tapp)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/20 "2025-07-16T19:59:53Z")
You picked possibly the worst time in PTCG’s history to pull out these sheets and scream “Authentic” from the hilltops. ---
**Author:** ![eevee](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/eevee/32/230472_2.png) [@eevee](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/eevee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/21 "2025-07-16T20:00:25Z")
Is it ok If I post this as a link into the meme thread? ---
**Author:** ![fourthstartcg](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fourthstartcg/32/163893_2.png) [@fourthstartcg](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fourthstartcg)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/dismissed-debated-still-dancing-the-disco-charizards-aren-t-just-returning-they-haven-t-even-begun/57290/22 "2025-07-16T20:26:18Z")
You have already shilled these cards enough. Please **only** update us when the cards have come back from CGC either being authenticated or denied. Also, using AI to write your shill posts is a new low. You can’t even think of how to hype them yourself so you need to get ChatGPT to do it for you!