@sevenjirachis77 I didn’t say they were. I said how these were obtained and none of that was included. This is the problem I was talking about.
From my post: “The card is what it is. Appreciate it for just that. Don’t make it more or less than it is.”
Every thread on this ends up being a shitstorm because trolls keep repeating the same lines over and over. Occasionally people try to white knight the card as well though and claim things about it that aren’t true. Most often I see the former dominating each discussion because again those people just love stirring things up and basking in the drama. Some just purely love the drama but some have hidden motives as well that primarily come at the cost of people whose sole intent was to do something fun and nice for the hobby.
Well if PSA are refusing to grade it, that pretty much kills the investment value. And considering it’s a brand new card I’d subjectively say it’s more custom than official.
Someone should set up an E4 poll on this thread; fake or real. Then we shall see the results.
Everything worth saying was already said or removed for legal reasons and people taking polls or arguing their feelings isn’t going to accomplish anything. PKM and Gottaketchumall kinda already wrapped this up. This card is a lightening rod for controversy. If you like controversy and drama, it’s a wet dream. If you hate that sorta stuff, it’s time to look the other way.
There were a few virbank people trying to get them graded at BGS and PSA from what I saw. I presume both failed to authenticate but never saw confirmation nor proof of that. One person trying to grade one at PSA had one of the cheaper available copies on ebay so that reinforces the presumption.
Let me be crystal clear about this card: I don’t care at all. Never did, never will. I own 0 copies and will never buy a copy.
If any content is removed or edited it is entirely because of legal pressure. If for some reason you can’t pick up on nuance, this statement was obviously a legally pressured statement:
Lastly, this is a Pokemon forum, not a governed democracy. You aren’t entitled to information that crosses a legal boundary. Moreover, We reserve the right to move content as we see fit. If for some reason that triggers you or if want to focus on the 0.1% of threads removed, no one is forcing you to be here. We take the time to be as transparent as possible (literally stopped eating dinner to make this post) but you can’t satisfy everyone.
With that said feel free to talk about the card. Try to remain civil. And be sure to remove the 10 feet of dirt while excavating this card from being beaten into the ground.
@smpratte the above transparency is appreciated. The Streisand effect is a real thing and interest isn’t going to go away if it is continually deleted. I appreciate that it is probably hard to keep up with the moderation and easier to delete than moderate and/or lock threads continually. But it feels like it would be ideal if that could be the case so some amount of stories could be shared and some amount of information can be searchable to those wondering about it.
Just my 2c but I would suggest the best place for this kind of information is Bulbapedia. That way we can still help preserve the history behind the card for people interested while also reducing any risk of emotional thread derailing here on E4.
The Hartford Collector’s Event was one of my favorite times I’ve had in the Pokemon hobby. I drove out from Boston with Devin and Reina, met up with tons of people at the convention center, recorded an epic podcast, had some great pizza, and crashed along with five (I think) others in Zack’s packed hotel room. We all had a blast looking at each other’s collections, opening packs and boxes, buying from the insane selection vendors had, and checking out the mini-museum with ridiculously rare stuff.
A couple days after the event finished up I got the Collector Charizard in the mail as I paid for a full ticket. Having that card serves as what I would consider a perfect reminder of the event. We all collect cards, and here’s a card that commemorates that in the best way possible. Whenever I look at the card, I’ll remember the excitement I had when Charlie mentioned in Nashville the possibility of a collector-specific event in Hartford, the amazing time I had with old and new friends at the event, and the pride that collecting Pokemon cards had become big enough to sustain its own event.
You can debate for days about whether the card is “real” or not, you can argue about semantics and production and “TPCi” and who put the cards in the mailbox, but you’ll never be able to dilute the experience that all attendees of the event had.
There’s nothing to discuss really. It’s a fairly common card with unofficial stamps created at an event. If you want to put it in a more simpler way I can buy 1000 more of those cards and stamp them myself; and I can price them at whatever price i’d like because fuck yall.
Whats your venmo? I’ll pay you $20 right now to show me a similar stamp on a different real pokemon card. Let me see you get a Collector dragons majesty made. I will supply the card.
Nah, we can compare your card to the one that was stamped for the collector event and put that to bed right away. If you think you can get it done, lets see it. I’ll fund the cost of the stamping and supply the card.
