# Black/Red dot error + Holo Bleed Charizard/Blastoise? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [June 7, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560 "2018-06-07T02:04:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![boozki](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/boozki/32/807_2.png) [@boozki](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/boozki)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/1 "2018-06-07T02:04:44Z")
So i was going through my collection and noticed that my black dot error Charizard had holo bleed. I was wondering if this is common to have both error on a single card? What could it be worth? I also have a red dot Blastoise with holo bleed but it was too difficult to capture in a picture. Any kind of information on it would be amazing. Thank you! [imgur.com/a/xPzgM2m](https://imgur.com/a/xPzgM2m) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/system/32/97794_2.png) [@system](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 5:59am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/2 "2022-05-12T05:59:05Z")
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**Author:** ![ssjc](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/ssjc/32/756_2.png) [@ssjc](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/ssjc)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/3 "2018-06-07T02:33:30Z")
what the fuck is a black dot error ---
**Author:** ![boozki](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/boozki/32/807_2.png) [@boozki](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/boozki)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/4 "2018-06-07T02:40:55Z")
> [@ssjc](#): > > what the fuck is a black dot error If you look at the bottom where it says Nintendo. There is a black dot that covers the letter T. Ive seen it on a few Charizards so i believe its an actual error ---
**Author:** ![ssjc](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/ssjc/32/756_2.png) [@ssjc](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/ssjc)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/5 "2018-06-07T02:41:40Z")
looks like mold ---
**Author:** ![boozki](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/boozki/32/807_2.png) [@boozki](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/boozki)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/6 "2018-06-07T02:42:42Z")
> [@ssjc](#): > > looks like mold Yeah. Im not sure how to respond to that lol ---
**Author:** ![kiwiblue](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kiwiblue/32/930_2.png) [@kiwiblue](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kiwiblue)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/7 "2018-06-07T03:03:52Z")
Very cool card !! ---
**Author:** ![kiwiblue](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kiwiblue/32/930_2.png) [@kiwiblue](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kiwiblue)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/8 "2018-06-07T03:11:20Z")
For sale? 😁 ? ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/9 "2018-06-07T03:15:11Z")
> [@kiwiblue](#): > > For sale? 😁 ? You are kidding right? ---
**Author:** ![pokenoob](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokenoob/32/842_2.png) [@pokenoob](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokenoob)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/10 "2018-06-07T03:23:52Z")
> [@ssjc](#): > > what the fuck is a black dot error lol pretty self explanatory…there is a black dot on the card. If you don’t want to play Where’s Waldo with the dots: the one on the Charizard over the Nintendo writing on the bottom and the one on the Blastoise is above the energy cost. ---
**Author:** ![boozki](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/boozki/32/807_2.png) [@boozki](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/boozki)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/11 "2018-06-07T03:24:11Z")
> [@kiwiblue](#): > > For sale? 😁 ? Unfortunately since i only have the one i think i want to hold onto it haha ---
**Author:** ![ssjc](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/ssjc/32/756_2.png) [@ssjc](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/ssjc)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:25am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/12 "2018-06-07T03:25:34Z")
> [@pokenoob](#): > > > [@ssjc](#): > > > > what the fuck is a black dot error > > lol pretty self explanatory…there is a black dot on the card. > > If you don’t want to play Where’s Waldo with the dots: the one on the Charizard over the Nintendo writing on the bottom and the one on the Blastoise is above the energy cost. Oh shit no way? I remember this rare black dot error charizard selling for like $6,000 a couple months ago ---
**Author:** ![boozki](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/boozki/32/807_2.png) [@boozki](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/boozki)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/13 "2018-06-07T03:27:43Z")
> [@ssjc](#): > > > [@pokenoob](#): > > > > lol pretty self explanatory…there is a black dot on the card. > > > > If you don’t want to play Where’s Waldo with the dots: the one on the Charizard over the Nintendo writing on the bottom and the one on the Blastoise is above the energy cost. > > Oh shit no way? > > I remember this rare black dot error charizard selling for like $6,000 a couple months ago Does the black dot one not qualify as a real error? I figured it would be the same as the Blastoise’s red dot since its something thats occur on more than a handful of cards? Or does the red dot not count as one either? Serious question please no flame ---
**Author:** ![ssjc](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/ssjc/32/756_2.png) [@ssjc](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/ssjc)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/14 "2018-06-07T03:28:42Z")
I’m pretty sure the red dot is worth under 10k and the black dot worth over 10k ---
**Author:** ![mjisaacs](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mjisaacs/32/978_2.png) [@mjisaacs](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mjisaacs)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/15 "2018-06-07T03:29:08Z")
> [@ssjc](#): > > > [@pokenoob](#): > > > > lol pretty self explanatory…there is a black dot on the card. > > > > If you don’t want to play Where’s Waldo with the dots: the one on the Charizard over the Nintendo writing on the bottom and the one on the Blastoise is above the energy cost. > > Oh shit no way? > > I remember this rare black dot error charizard selling for like $6,000 a couple months ago I honestly can’t tell if this sarcasm or not… ---
**Author:** ![pokenoob](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokenoob/32/842_2.png) [@pokenoob](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokenoob)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/16 "2018-06-07T03:30:40Z")
> [@ssjc](#): > > I’m pretty sure the red dot is worth under 10k and the black dot worth over 10k i’m sure they’re all worth more than those lame “FPO” expedition charizards floating around. ---
**Author:** ![ssjc](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/ssjc/32/756_2.png) [@ssjc](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/ssjc)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/17 "2018-06-07T03:31:13Z")
> [@pokenoob](#): > > > [@ssjc](#): > > > > I’m pretty sure the red dot is worth under 10k and the black dot worth over 10k > > i’m sure they’re all worth more than those lame “FPO” expedition charizards floating around. haterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ---
**Author:** ![mjisaacs](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mjisaacs/32/978_2.png) [@mjisaacs](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mjisaacs)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/18 "2018-06-07T03:31:38Z")
> [@boozki](#): > > > [@ssjc](#): > > > > Oh shit no way? > > > > I remember this rare black dot error charizard selling for like $6,000 a couple months ago > > Does the black dot one not qualify as a real error? I figured it would be the same as the Blastoise’s red dot since its something thats occur on more than a handful of cards? Or does the red dot not count as one either? Serious question please no flame I consider the red Dot Blastoise to be a legit error personally. However I’ve been told I consider everything and the kitchen sink to be an error so my vote might not be the best to go off of. I haven’t done enough research on Charizard yet to consider it since a Card has to have at least 5 different cards to be considered an error in my book. Most people do not consider the red Dot error as a real error though to my understanding. Mjisaacs ---
**Author:** ![pokenoob](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokenoob/32/842_2.png) [@pokenoob](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokenoob)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/19 "2018-06-07T03:31:47Z")
> [@ssjc](#): > > > [@pokenoob](#): > > > > i’m sure they’re all worth more than those lame “FPO” expedition charizards floating around. > > haterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol just messing with ya. nice insta ---
**Author:** ![ssjc](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/ssjc/32/756_2.png) [@ssjc](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/ssjc)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560/20 "2018-06-07T03:33:09Z")
> [@mjisaacs](#): > > > [@boozki](#): > > > > Does the black dot one not qualify as a real error? I figured it would be the same as the Blastoise’s red dot since its something thats occur on more than a handful of cards? Or does the red dot not count as one either? Serious question please no flame > > However I’ve been told I consider everything and the kitchen sink to be an error Does the Kitchen Sink have a holo bleed tho…? [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/black-red-dot-error-holo-bleed-charizard-blastoise/20560.md?page=2)