Bandai Real or Fake?

[KingPokemon]

Any experts out there that can tell the difference?

[parkermrparker]

If the seller was pegasusmint* its a fake

[KingPokemon]

@parkermrparker

If the seller was pegasusmint* its a fake

Nah, just a couple I found in an old box;) Very mint though.

[parkermrparker]

@KingPokemon

@parkermrparker

If the seller was pegasusmint* its a fake

Nah, just a couple I found in an old box;) Very mint though.

multi-level marketing card stock would make a great backing if you ever decide to stick them on something. The multi-level marketing cards themselves are trash and should be covered up anyway.

[rainbow]

You’ve graded so many copies, surely you must know.
Bootleg in the middle by the way.

[KingPokemon]

With all the words on fakes that PSA was grading I wasn’t sure. So that middle one is fake? Thanks. That must mean the two I posted above are okay?

[KingPokemon]

@parkermrparker

@KingPokemon

Nah, just a couple I found in an old box;) Very mint though.

multi-level marketing card stock would make a great backing if you ever decide to stick them on something. The multi-level marketing cards themselves are trash and should be covered up anyway.

Guess you missed out too🤣

[alchemyst]

@KingPokemon

@parkermrparker

multi-level marketing card stock would make a great backing if you ever decide to stick them on something. The multi-level marketing cards themselves are trash and should be covered up anyway.

Guess you missed out too🤣

I didn’t miss out. Sold a couple 1st edition boxes. Made some quick money. multi-level marketing is still a joke

[KingPokemon]

@alchemyst

@KingPokemon

Guess you missed out too🤣

I didn’t miss out. Sold a couple 1st edition boxes. Made some quick money. multi-level marketing is still a joke

Exactly what my mtg community said back in 1999. That didn’t age well either;)

[andrea]

The foil and the back look alright from a quick glance, compare it to the others you have if there’s something missing from the back like a date or soemthing. Usually the fakes for this set are easy to spot and have a funny foil like the one circled in the ig picture

[KingPokemon]

@andrea

The foil and the back look alright from a quick glance, compare it to the others you have if there’s something missing from the back like a date or soemthing. Usually the fakes for this set are easy to spot and have a funny foil like the one circled in the ig picture

Finally a productive, reasoned response;)
I actually have thousands and thousands of these bandai’s and all from the same lot so one fake all fake. Plus I traded thousands to someone here on e4. Believe me, these are VERY common cards and especially so if the ones I’ve had are legit. Yes, PSA graded them as legit but that isn’t always accurate which was why I asked for confirmation here. Sadly, nobody here can confirm.

[wooltchi]

@KingPokemon

@parkermrparker

multi-level marketing card stock would make a great backing if you ever decide to stick them on something. The multi-level marketing cards themselves are trash and should be covered up anyway.

Guess you missed out too🤣

I actually like multi-level marketing cards and their illustrations but the ‘hype investment’ attitude around it is exactly what kills it for me. Most collectors here like collecting cards because they simply enjoy it and not for “epic st0nkz!” which you of all people should understand.

[alchemyst]

@KingPokemon

@alchemyst

I didn’t miss out. Sold a couple 1st edition boxes. Made some quick money. multi-level marketing is still a joke

Exactly what my mtg community said back in 1999. That didn’t age well either;)

multi-level marketing is nothing like magic though. It’s just an attempt to cash in on a hot collectors market. I get you’re invested in it, but dang. People pushing multi-level marketing give me used car salesman vibes. If this started out like other trading card games (pokemon, magic, yu-gi-oh, etc), I’d be more inclined to back it. NFTs are no different

[lordpokesmoke]

@alchemyst

@KingPokemon

Exactly what my mtg community said back in 1999. That didn’t age well either;)

multi-level marketing is nothing like magic though. It’s just an attempt to cash in on a hot collectors market. I get you’re invested in it, but dang. People pushing multi-level marketing give me used car salesman vibes. If this started out like other trading card games (pokemon, magic, yu-gi-oh, etc), I’d be more inclined to back it. NFTs are no different

I don’t have a dog in this fight so genuinely asking: why is it viewed as an attempt to cash in on a hot collectors market? I’ve heard the Kickstarter didn’t even sell out? Is it that they partnered with influencers?

Im not sure it’s fair to compare the way a game starts today with tcgs that came out before the mass adoption of the Internet and far before the advent of social media. If the tcgs mentioned started today, would the same business models work? What is the “correct” way to market a tcg in the social media era?

I might just be uninformed on any shady stuff multi-level marketing has done so if y’all can fill me in I’d appreciate it. I’m just curious why there is so much vitriol every time it is mentioned here.

[KingPokemon]

@wooltchi

@KingPokemon

Guess you missed out too🤣

I actually like multi-level marketing cards and their illustrations but the ‘hype investment’ attitude around it is exactly what kills it for me. Most collectors here like collecting cards because they simply enjoy it and not for “epic st0nkz!” which you of all people should understand.

I like them just like I like most tcg. Their value doesn’t help or hurt me cause like all my collectibles, I keep them. As far as aggressive marketing…why does that bother you. Those are simply company decisions that seem to work out well for them. I wish all the failed tcg over the last 30 years were a little more competent business wise. I own all their failed sets still and honestly still like them.
Sure it’s good some succeeded like Pokémon but I’d love them all the same if they fizzled out cause there’ll be more down the road.

[KingPokemon]

@alchemyst

@KingPokemon

Exactly what my mtg community said back in 1999. That didn’t age well either;)

multi-level marketing is nothing like magic though. It’s just an attempt to cash in on a hot collectors market. I get you’re invested in it, but dang. People pushing multi-level marketing give me used car salesman vibes. If this started out like other trading card games (pokemon, magic, yu-gi-oh, etc), I’d be more inclined to back it. NFTs are no different

Except this game has been in the works for 5 years. If it would’ve been a cash grab, they wouldn’t have done very well;)

Btw…is anyone gonna be able to answer the actual post question? Lol

[KingPokemon]

@lordpokesmoke

@alchemyst

multi-level marketing is nothing like magic though. It’s just an attempt to cash in on a hot collectors market. I get you’re invested in it, but dang. People pushing multi-level marketing give me used car salesman vibes. If this started out like other trading card games (pokemon, magic, yu-gi-oh, etc), I’d be more inclined to back it. NFTs are no different

I don’t have a dog in this fight so genuinely asking: why is it viewed as an attempt to cash in on a hot collectors market? I’ve heard the Kickstarter didn’t even sell out? Is it that they partnered with influencers?

Im not sure it’s fair to compare the way a game starts today with tcgs that came out before the mass adoption of the Internet and far before the advent of social media. If the tcgs mentioned started today, would the same business models work? What is the “correct” way to market a tcg in the social media era?

I might just be uninformed on any shady stuff multi-level marketing has done so if y’all can fill me in I’d appreciate it. I’m just curious why there is so much vitriol every time it is mentioned here.

Well stated question:) Like most things some like it some don’t. Those who don’t are either regretting missing out on a good thing or think if something doesn’t measure up to Pokémon (which nothing will) then it must be bad bad bad lol.
Just enjoy your hobby’s and ignore the haters and naysayers.

[alchemyst]

@lordpokesmoke

@alchemyst

multi-level marketing is nothing like magic though. It’s just an attempt to cash in on a hot collectors market. I get you’re invested in it, but dang. People pushing multi-level marketing give me used car salesman vibes. If this started out like other trading card games (pokemon, magic, yu-gi-oh, etc), I’d be more inclined to back it. NFTs are no different

I don’t have a dog in this fight so genuinely asking: why is it viewed as an attempt to cash in on a hot collectors market? I’ve heard the Kickstarter didn’t even sell out? Is it that they partnered with influencers?

Im not sure it’s fair to compare the way a game starts today with tcgs that came out before the mass adoption of the Internet and far before the advent of social media. If the tcgs mentioned started today, would the same business models work? What is the “correct” way to market a tcg in the social media era?

I might just be uninformed on any shady stuff multi-level marketing has done so if y’all can fill me in I’d appreciate it. I’m just curious why there is so much vitriol every time it is mentioned here.

In my opinion, there are a few things.

1. The artificial influence by youtubers. This game is supposed to be one thats played, but it’s mostly talked about as an investment. And whether these youtubers want to admit it or not, they have an influence over their fans. Especially the younger ones. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a coordinated effort on their part to artificially drive up prices on the secondary market either.

2. Accessibility to cards at retail. I live in the largest city in my state. I’ve yet to see any card shops and stores carry any product. If people can’t buy product at retail in the beginning, people 15-20 years down the line won’t have an interest buying this brand. Except for those only in it for the money.

3. The artwork is a direct ripoff from the early pokemon art.

[KingPokemon]

@alchemyst

@lordpokesmoke

I don’t have a dog in this fight so genuinely asking: why is it viewed as an attempt to cash in on a hot collectors market? I’ve heard the Kickstarter didn’t even sell out? Is it that they partnered with influencers?

Im not sure it’s fair to compare the way a game starts today with tcgs that came out before the mass adoption of the Internet and far before the advent of social media. If the tcgs mentioned started today, would the same business models work? What is the “correct” way to market a tcg in the social media era?

I might just be uninformed on any shady stuff multi-level marketing has done so if y’all can fill me in I’d appreciate it. I’m just curious why there is so much vitriol every time it is mentioned here.

In my opinion, there are a few things.

1. The artificial influence by youtubers. This game is supposed to be one thats played, but it’s mostly talked about as an investment. And whether these youtubers want to admit it or not, they have an influence over their fans. Especially the younger ones. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a coordinated effort on their part to artificially drive up prices on the secondary market either.

2. Accessibility to cards at retail. I live in the largest city in my state. I’ve yet to see any card shops and stores carry any product. If people can’t buy product at retail in the beginning, people 15-20 years down the line won’t have an interest buying this brand. Except for those only in it for the money.

3. The artwork is a direct ripoff from the early pokemon art.

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