# Asian English Yugioh

**URL:** <https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [October 19, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923 "2018-10-19T03:29:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![megacon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/megacon/32/524_2.png) [@megacon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/megacon)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/1 "2018-10-19T03:29:53Z")

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Is anyone on here a big Yugioh collector? I’ve seen some people that dabble, and was wondering if anyone here might have some info or collect Asian English cards from the GX era. They seem to be a smaller print run, similar to 4th print Base and such. Any help is appreciated

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**Author:** ![nuttun](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/nuttun/32/565_2.png) [@nuttun](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/nuttun)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/2 "2018-10-19T13:29:27Z")

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I can’t give you precise information on asian english GX era cards precisely, but I do know this:  
-Most collectors that I know of do not like Asian English cards, and only buy it as a last resort (i.e. that blue eyes LOB became too expensive)  
-Collectors who collect vintage typically cuts off pre-GX era, meaning GX is noticeably less popular compared to vintage yugioh.

My personal impression with yugioh collectors among my friends is that Asian English is the worst version out there, significantly inferior to the North American backed copies of the same card. While 4th print is essentially the same as Unlimited Base set, but with much smaller quantities, I do not think a smaller print of the Asian English would yield that much more value because the backing is actually different, but in a way that people do not like or appreciate, at the moment. Furthermore, I do not think the GX era of cards matured yet, so compounded with an Asian English backing, I do not think the prices will be up anytime soon, nor do I think people are willing to list them at the moment due to the sheer fact that it is clear for vintage yugioh that the North American counterpart provides a significant premium over Asian English (at the moment anyways).

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**Author:** ![megacon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/megacon/32/524_2.png) [@megacon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/megacon)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/3 "2018-10-19T13:44:14Z")

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> [@nuttun](#):
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> I can’t give you precise information on asian english GX era cards precisely, but I do know this:  
> -Most collectors that I know of do not like Asian English cards, and only buy it as a last resort (i.e. that blue eyes LOB became too expensive)  
> -Collectors who collect vintage typically cuts off pre-GX era, meaning GX is noticeably less popular compared to vintage yugioh.
> 
> My personal impression with yugioh collectors among my friends is that Asian English is the worst version out there, significantly inferior to the North American backed copies of the same card. While 4th print is essentially the same as Unlimited Base set, but with much smaller quantities, I do not think a smaller print of the Asian English would yield that much more value because the backing is actually different, but in a way that people do not like or appreciate, at the moment. Furthermore, I do not think the GX era of cards matured yet, so compounded with an Asian English backing, I do not think the prices will be up anytime soon, nor do I think people are willing to list them at the moment due to the sheer fact that it is clear for vintage yugioh that the North American counterpart provides a significant premium over Asian English (at the moment anyways).

I definitely agree with you on the notion that most collectors aren’t a fan of them, but I do know past sales, specifically for GX era, have been significantly higher for the Asian English due to the scarcity. The premium doesn’t exist for the vintage Yugioh market because Asian English wasn’t quite as scarce for those corresponding sets, or so I’ve been told. But I think your guess is also pretty accurate with the reasoning behind the lack of listings added on with the scarcity. It seems to be incredibly niche, which is why I compared to subset variants in Pokemon. My main objective was to see if someone could provide me with more specifics on print runs and perhaps find a better location to purchase these for future investments and such. I appreciate your input, though! It is helpful

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**Author:** ![kkthxbai](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kkthxbai/32/329_2.png) [@kkthxbai](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kkthxbai)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/4 "2018-10-19T14:19:53Z")

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Yeah, ae is a difficult sale.

I’m not sure why though, there is some awesome variants and nice artworks printed in ae. And they are really hard to obtain gem mint graded.

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**Author:** ![megacon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/megacon/32/524_2.png) [@megacon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/megacon)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/5 "2018-10-21T03:29:58Z")

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> [@kkthxbai](#):
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> Yeah, ae is a difficult sale.
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> I’m not sure why though, there is some awesome variants and nice artworks printed in ae. And they are really hard to obtain gem mint graded.

I guess it’s because the market is mainly between English and Japanese, with very little in between lol. Do you dabble in these?

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**Author:** ![japanime](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/japanime/32/290_2.png) [@japanime](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/japanime)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/6 "2018-10-21T04:25:44Z")

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I listed a bunch of Asian English packs on YJ auctions, and it took nearly a year for them to sell. In general, Japanese collectors just aren’t interested in English-language YGO cards (nor are they particularly interested in English-language Pokemon product).

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**Author:** ![megacon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/megacon/32/524_2.png) [@megacon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/megacon)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 7:04am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/7 "2018-10-21T07:04:00Z")

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> [@japanime](#):
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> I listed a bunch of Asian English packs on YJ auctions, and it took nearly a year for them to sell. In general, Japanese collectors just aren’t interested in English-language YGO cards (nor are they particularly interested in English-language Pokemon product).

what sets were they? If they were the older sets, that would somewhat make sense. Do you collect these?

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**Author:** ![Quuador](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/quuador/32/237215_2.png) [@Quuador](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Quuador)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/8 "2018-10-21T09:48:57Z")

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> [@nuttun](#):
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> I do not think a smaller print of the Asian English would yield that much more value because the backing is actually different

Oh, so that’s the difference! I recently bought a Yu-Gi-Oh card that was advertised as Asian-English, but was still LOB-### like the US ones. Usually the code is changed to AE### to indicate the Asian-English region, so when I saw it as a regular LOB I didn’t think much of it. Didn’t knew the back was slightly different in comparison to a regular English or Japanese card for [the Asian-English sets](http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Asian-English) without AE in the set-numbering. Thanks! 😊

PS: The reason I bought it was because it had holo bleed. But I’ll state more about that later once I finished the set of 8 cards I’m currently looking for. Just two more to go.

Greetz,  
Quuador

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**Author:** ![chok](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/chok/32/620_2.png) [@chok](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/chok)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 10:32am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/9 "2018-10-21T10:32:07Z")

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All old school Asian English Ultra Rares have holo bleeds, maybe even the super rares.

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**Author:** ![Quuador](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/quuador/32/237215_2.png) [@Quuador](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Quuador)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/10 "2018-10-21T10:52:05Z")

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> [@chok](#):
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> All old school Asian English Ultra Rares have holo bleeds, maybe even the super rares.

It was a Secret Rare 😊

Greetz,  
Quuador

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**Author:** ![japanime](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/japanime/32/290_2.png) [@japanime](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/japanime)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/11 "2018-10-21T22:53:59Z")

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> [@megacon](#):
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> > [@japanime](#):
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> > I listed a bunch of Asian English packs on YJ auctions, and it took nearly a year for them to sell. In general, Japanese collectors just aren’t interested in English-language YGO cards (nor are they particularly interested in English-language Pokemon product).
> 
> what sets were they? If they were the older sets, that would somewhat make sense. Do you collect these?

They were Magic Ruler and Metal Raider packs. I never collected YGO myself — I used to run a toy store in Tokyo, and we sold tons of the cards there.

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**Author:** ![megacon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/megacon/32/524_2.png) [@megacon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/megacon)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 4:55am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/12 "2018-10-22T04:55:19Z")

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> [@japanime](#):
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> > [@megacon](#):
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> > what sets were they? If they were the older sets, that would somewhat make sense. Do you collect these?
> 
> They were Magic Ruler and Metal Raider packs. I never collected YGO myself — I used to run a toy store in Tokyo, and we sold tons of the cards there.

yeah, the market for the more vintage ones in ae is contrary to the standard vintage market. For ae, everyone wants the newer sets in that variant.

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**Author:** ![budget](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/budget/32/610_2.png) [@budget](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/budget)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/13 "2018-10-22T09:53:02Z")

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> [@megacon](#):
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> > [@japanime](#):
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> > They were Magic Ruler and Metal Raider packs. I never collected YGO myself — I used to run a toy store in Tokyo, and we sold tons of the cards there.
> 
> yeah, the market for the more vintage ones in ae is contrary to the standard vintage market. For ae, everyone wants the newer sets in that variant.

North American English is seen by the shrewd collector as the one true vintage print.

Slowly AE, Australian Release and European Release are starting to creep up. Like someone said it’s a last resort and there’s collectors out there who don’t know what they’re buying and will overpay for common cards.

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**Author:** ![megacon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/megacon/32/524_2.png) [@megacon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/megacon)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:54am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/14 "2018-10-22T09:54:54Z")

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> [@budget](#):
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> > [@megacon](#):
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> > yeah, the market for the more vintage ones in ae is contrary to the standard vintage market. For ae, everyone wants the newer sets in that variant.
> 
> North American English is seen by the shrewd collector as the one true vintage print.
> 
> Slowly AE, Australian Release and European Release are starting to creep up. Like someone said it’s a last resort and there’s collectors out there who don’t know what they’re buying and will overpay for common cards.

I’ve only seen price increases comparitively to the normal English set with the GX era

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**Author:** ![budget](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/budget/32/610_2.png) [@budget](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/budget)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 10:13am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/15 "2018-10-22T10:13:58Z")

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> [@megacon](#):
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> > [@budget](#):
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> > North American English is seen by the shrewd collector as the one true vintage print.
> > 
> > Slowly AE, Australian Release and European Release are starting to creep up. Like someone said it’s a last resort and there’s collectors out there who don’t know what they’re buying and will overpay for common cards.
> 
> I’ve only seen price increases comparitively to the normal English set with the GX era

I’m referring to the 2002-2004 era sets, Australian print and European print were only a thing up until the end of 2003.

GX era is a different beast. You just never see them pop up in western markets and I’ve never seen anyone actively seek them out.

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**Author:** ![megacon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/megacon/32/524_2.png) [@megacon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/megacon)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/16 "2018-10-22T11:00:14Z")

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> [@budget](#):
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> > [@megacon](#):
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> > I’ve only seen price increases comparitively to the normal English set with the GX era
> 
> I’m referring to the 2002-2004 era sets, Australian print and European print were only a thing up until the end of 2003.
> 
> GX era is a different beast. You just never see them pop up in western markets and I’ve never seen anyone actively seek them out.

I know, right? That’s why I’ve been trying to find some overseas collector who might have some, before the market catches up to its supposed value, ya know?

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**Author:** ![cosrob](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cosrob/32/366_2.png) [@cosrob](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cosrob)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/17 "2018-10-22T12:37:21Z")

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> [@megacon](#):
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> > [@budget](#):
> >
> > I’m referring to the 2002-2004 era sets, Australian print and European print were only a thing up until the end of 2003.
> > 
> > GX era is a different beast. You just never see them pop up in western markets and I’ve never seen anyone actively seek them out.
> 
> I know, right? That’s why I’ve been trying to find some overseas collector who might have some, before the market catches up to its supposed value, ya know?

I sold a 1st ed light of destruction booster box without realising how rare it was earlier this year. You live and you learn.

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**Author:** ![nuttun](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/nuttun/32/565_2.png) [@nuttun](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/nuttun)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/asian-english-yugioh/21923/18 "2018-10-23T13:45:27Z")

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> [@Quuador](#):
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> > [@nuttun](#):
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> > I do not think a smaller print of the Asian English would yield that much more value because the backing is actually different
> 
> Oh, so that’s the difference! I recently bought a Yu-Gi-Oh card that was advertised as Asian-English, but was still LOB-### like the US ones. Usually the code is changed to AE### to indicate the Asian-English region, so when I saw it as a regular LOB I didn’t think much of it. Didn’t knew the back was slightly different in comparison to a regular English or Japanese card for [the Asian-English sets](http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Asian-English) without AE in the set-numbering. Thanks! 😊
> 
> PS: The reason I bought it was because it had holo bleed. But I’ll state more about that later once I finished the set of 8 cards I’m currently looking for. Just two more to go.
> 
> Greetz,  
> Quuador

No problem! The backing is critical, because the difference between the backing usually yield a price difference of quadruple to quintuple the price of a raw card…now probably even more.

LOB was a difficult beast to deal with for beginners because of all the different codes and different backing…it’s easy to have missed a tiny important detail that would cause trouble when the card arrives in the mail.

Good luck with the set of 8!
