# Another Fake Snap Pikachu Card **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** general-board\ **Created:** [December 30, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113 "2017-12-30T17:24:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![cullers](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cullers/32/291_2.png) [@cullers](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cullers)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/41 "2017-12-30T20:55:57Z")
> [@Troy](#): > > Would this card have the green light at PSA even if it was real? I know the starters had some sort of discrepancy between the scan on the magazine and the actual card so they wouldn’t grade them. Did they clear all of the SNAP cards with those? Pikachu isn’t on the list of ones they would have trouble with. ---
**Author:** ![frostbyte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/frostbyte/32/244_2.png) [@frostbyte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/frostbyte)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/42 "2017-12-30T21:23:18Z")
> [@cullers](#): > > > [@frostbyte](#): > > > > I can send videos of the entire collection…I wasnt posting it up for sale or anything. I didn’t even know anything about it so I was just asking. Hell, I didn’t even MAKE this post. I didn’t know these forums existed. I am not a huge collector, I collected when I was younger and these were left to me. > > > > Getting hammered with some serious rude people everywhere I’ve posted it… I was just trying to get some information. > > > > I will post everything when I can; all of the hundreds of base set holos that were left to me along with a lengthy video of the cards upclose including the pikachu. > > > > Not trying to get fame, or anything really. Just information so I can sell it eventually. > > > > Thank you. > > This makes me laugh. If I had a card went to a forum and said ‘hey what’s this card?’ and they tell me it’s fake, I don’t get defensive and start calling people rude. In the off chance you’re not trying to be scummy, it’s a fake card till you prove otherwise, end of discussion. > > If you want to know how to prove it, send it to PSA. Beside you’re going to need to do this if you want to sell it anyway. But this is my point… you saying “send it to psa and prove it”. Ok I can do that… but up until a few hours ago I had no idea what PSA was because I’m not a collector. So I was also asking for advice. No reason for people to be rude to me D; ---
**Author:** ![smpratte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smpratte/32/79511_2.png) [@smpratte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smpratte)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/43 "2017-12-30T21:28:23Z")
Just to clarify, my comments or any other comments were strictly about the authenticity of the card and scenario. Why is the card straight in the [first](https://i.imgur.com/97IGVvD.jpg) photo, and then warped in the [second](https://i.imgur.com/xRoIw6N.jpg) photo? This is impossible for one card. Also, look at the snap symbol on a [real](https://i.imgur.com/9A79HaW.png) snap card vs this [pikachu](https://i.imgur.com/sQLnd5z.png). The symbol and ink should have the same clarity. The Pikachu is too blurry. These are quantifiable objective problems. At this point it would be consciously misleading to pretend this card is real. ---
**Author:** ![cullers](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cullers/32/291_2.png) [@cullers](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cullers)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/44 "2017-12-30T21:40:27Z")
> [@frostbyte](#): > > > [@cullers](#): > > > > This makes me laugh. If I had a card went to a forum and said ‘hey what’s this card?’ and they tell me it’s fake, I don’t get defensive and start calling people rude. In the off chance you’re not trying to be scummy, it’s a fake card till you prove otherwise, end of discussion. > > > > If you want to know how to prove it, send it to PSA. Beside you’re going to need to do this if you want to sell it anyway. > > But this is my point… you saying “send it to psa and prove it”. > > Ok I can do that… but up until a few hours ago I had no idea what PSA was because I’m not a collector. So I was also asking for advice. No reason for people to be rude to me D; Nobody is being rude to you. Just because you don’t like their concerns with the card doesn’t mean you get to call them rude, it’s very rude of you to do that. ---
**Author:** ![frostbyte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/frostbyte/32/244_2.png) [@frostbyte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/frostbyte)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/45 "2017-12-30T21:46:52Z")
> [@cullers](#): > > > [@frostbyte](#): > > > > But this is my point… you saying “send it to psa and prove it”. > > > > Ok I can do that… but up until a few hours ago I had no idea what PSA was because I’m not a collector. So I was also asking for advice. No reason for people to be rude to me D; > > Nobody is being rude to you. Just because you don’t like their concerns with the card doesn’t mean you get to call them rude, it’s very rude of you to do that. I got a DM saying I should kill myself. Not rude? lol… I didnt say everyone HERE is being rude, I said I’ve gotton rude people in the places I’ve posted this. ---
**Author:** ![cullers](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cullers/32/291_2.png) [@cullers](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cullers)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/46 "2017-12-30T21:51:01Z")
> [@frostbyte](#): > > > [@cullers](#): > > > > Nobody is being rude to you. Just because you don’t like their concerns with the card doesn’t mean you get to call them rude, it’s very rude of you to do that. > > I got a DM saying I should kill myself. Not rude? lol… I didnt say everyone HERE is being rude, I said I’ve gotton rude people in the places I’ve posted this. I’m not buying this victimhood bull crap. I’ll be ‘rude’ now and tell you to go away. You’re just a troll who has nothing to offer. ---
**Author:** ![frostbyte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/frostbyte/32/244_2.png) [@frostbyte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/frostbyte)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/47 "2017-12-30T21:51:33Z")
> [@cullers](#): > > > [@frostbyte](#): > > > > I got a DM saying I should kill myself. Not rude? lol… I didnt say everyone HERE is being rude, I said I’ve gotton rude people in the places I’ve posted this. > > I’m not buying this victimhood bull crap. I’ll be ‘rude’ now and tell you to go away. You’re just a troll who has nothing to offer. Alrighty I now see how this forum is. Have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/48 "2017-12-30T21:54:54Z")
> [@frostbyte](#): > > > [@cullers](#): > > > > I’m not buying this victimhood bull crap. I’ll be ‘rude’ now and tell you to go away. You’re just a troll who has nothing to offer. > > Alrighty I now see how this forum is. Have a nice day. You mean too knowledgeable to be fooled into buying your fake card, right? See ya. ---
**Author:** ![jkanly](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jkanly/32/368_2.png) [@jkanly](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jkanly)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/49 "2017-12-30T21:56:18Z")
@frostbyte We need to see high resolution photos in good lighting to make a better assesment. I feel it’s possible that the low lighting you are using in your photos may be causing a higher ISO on your camera. I can’t tell if the card resolution is poor, but either way I think there is some photographic distortion. A couple areas we need to see are: 1. Top front border and top edge. 2. A close-up image of the set symbol. (a scanned image would suffice) 3. Several images showing the quality of the surface finish and gloss that you mentioned… You need to take this at a 30-45 degree angle with some 4. Any other angles you can get. As high a resolution and as bright a lighting as you can manage. Providing these photos would help us get closer to an objective determination. Be careful handling the card in the mean time. ---
**Author:** ![jkanly](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jkanly/32/368_2.png) [@jkanly](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jkanly)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/50 "2017-12-30T22:27:25Z")
> [@cullers](#): > > > [@frostbyte](#): > > > > I got a DM saying I should kill myself. Not rude? lol… I didnt say everyone HERE is being rude, I said I’ve gotton rude people in the places I’ve posted this. > > I’m not buying this victimhood bull crap. I’ll be ‘rude’ now and tell you to go away. You’re just a troll who has nothing to offer. Her statement wasn’t expressing victimhood (in that sense), I see it as a well reasoned response. Am I the only one who wants to see this play out? The OP hasn’t been able to submit objective evidence countering Scott’s points and yet we’ve already concluded that this person is a “troll”? Let’s do better than this… Lets leave the name calling outside of the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![fazool](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fazool/32/55118_2.png) [@fazool](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fazool)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/51 "2017-12-30T22:27:58Z")
If you actually owned the card there would be no problem showing its validity tbh ---
**Author:** ![missingno](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/missingno/32/434_2.png) [@missingno](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/missingno)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/52 "2017-12-30T22:29:11Z")
This card is so fake. Just looking at the borders I was like: ![](https://media.giphy.com/media/yFnEpOld5k2I/giphy.gif) ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/53 "2017-12-30T22:35:03Z")
> [@jkanly](#): > > > [@cullers](#): > > > > I’m not buying this victimhood bull crap. I’ll be ‘rude’ now and tell you to go away. You’re just a troll who has nothing to offer. > > Her statement wasn’t expressing victimhood, I see it as a well reasoned response. > > Am I the only one who wants to see this play out? The OP hasn’t been able to submit objective evidence countering Scott’s points and yet we’ve already concluded that this person is a “troll”? Let’s do better than this… Lets leave the name calling outside of the discussion. The objective evidence from Scott has presented was brought up by others hours ago and the OP chose to ignore these and focuses on the personal comments. There is nothing that would even suggest legitimacy in this situation. There’s so many holes in the story. The card looks fake. There’s reason to believe the OP is posting deceptive pictures. How many more red flags are needed? ---
**Author:** ![cardcolle](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cardcolle/32/776_2.png) [@cardcolle](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cardcolle)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/54 "2017-12-30T22:35:54Z")
> [@cullers](#): > > > [@frostbyte](#): > > > > I got a DM saying I should kill myself. Not rude? lol… I didnt say everyone HERE is being rude, I said I’ve gotton rude people in the places I’ve posted this. > > I’m not buying this victimhood bull crap. I’ll be ‘rude’ now and tell you to go away. You’re just a troll who has nothing to offer. If you seriously don’t believe people can be as rude as to tell someone to kill themselves over something like this, then you must be pretty new to the internet. I still believe it’s a fake regardless, though. ---
**Author:** ![smpratte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smpratte/32/79511_2.png) [@smpratte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smpratte)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/55 "2017-12-30T22:38:36Z")
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/wcgyXq7.png) is a photo this individual sent me on December 15th. [Here](https://i.imgur.com/35g8jBc.png) is a real snap card. You can immediately see the difference in the clarity of the overall card and especially the snap camera logo. Also the top Pikachu border is odd. The quality of photos is not the issue. The background on the pikachu photos are clear in every shot. It is the actual card which is blurry, not their camera. I can literally see the [texture](https://i.imgur.com/97IGVvD.jpg) detail of the background when I zoom. Here are the images imbed so you can see them side by side, beginning with the real snap: ![](https://i.imgur.com/35g8jBc.png) ![](https://i.imgur.com/wcgyXq7.png) ---
**Author:** ![jkanly](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jkanly/32/368_2.png) [@jkanly](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jkanly)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/56 "2017-12-30T22:53:25Z")
@smpratte ![](https://i.imgur.com/AP1jiB4.jpg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/iyoHJ1w.jpg) Is it possible that the Pikachu SNAP has a slightly different set symbol than the Chansey SNAP, for example. I don’t have the reference material in front of me but based on what few photos we have of the SNAP Pikachu it seems to be the case. This is the reason why I asked for clearer photos to make an objective determination. ---
**Author:** ![frostbyte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/frostbyte/32/244_2.png) [@frostbyte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/frostbyte)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/57 "2017-12-30T22:54:46Z")
> [@pfm](#): > > > [@jkanly](#): > > > > Her statement wasn’t expressing victimhood, I see it as a well reasoned response. > > > > Am I the only one who wants to see this play out? The OP hasn’t been able to submit objective evidence countering Scott’s points and yet we’ve already concluded that this person is a “troll”? Let’s do better than this… Lets leave the name calling outside of the discussion. > > The objective evidence from Scott has presented was brought up by others hours ago and the OP chose to ignore these and focuses on the personal comments. > > There is nothing that would even suggest legitimacy in this situation. There’s so many holes in the story. The card looks fake. There’s reason to believe the OP is posting deceptive pictures. How many more red flags are needed? I didnt respond to smprattes points because I’m still not home in order to take more pictures, videos, and look at the actual card, I’ve been out all day. You guys are jumping on me when y’all are inpatient as hell. I didnt say the card was real, Im still trying to figure that out myself as well!! I will have more pictures and a video for you all in a few hours, jeez. ---
**Author:** ![frostbyte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/frostbyte/32/244_2.png) [@frostbyte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/frostbyte)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/58 "2017-12-30T22:58:04Z")
> [@frostbyte](#): > > > [@pfm](#): > > > > The objective evidence from Scott has presented was brought up by others hours ago and the OP chose to ignore these and focuses on the personal comments. > > > > There is nothing that would even suggest legitimacy in this situation. There’s so many holes in the story. The card looks fake. There’s reason to believe the OP is posting deceptive pictures. How many more red flags are needed? > > I didnt respond to smprattes points because I’m still not home in order to take more pictures, videos, and look at the actual card, I’ve been out all day. You guys are jumping on me when y’all are inpatient as hell. I didnt say the card was real, Im still trying to figure that out myself as well!! I will have more pictures and a video for you all in a few hours, jeez. I never even said I wanted to sell it to any of you, or if I ever even would. My cousin just died what makes you think I want to sell the damn thing today.If it gets authenticated than maybe I can think about selling it. ---
**Author:** ![cullers](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cullers/32/291_2.png) [@cullers](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cullers)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/59 "2017-12-30T23:07:13Z")
@jkanly @cardcolle Obviously you two don’t see it yet so I’ll give you the play by play. > [@frostbyte](#): > > Getting hammered with some serious rude people everywhere I’ve posted it… I was just trying to get some information. Right here frostbyte brings up people being rude. I hadn’t seen anyone be rude before this post. > [@frostbyte](#): > > But this is my point… you saying “send it to psa and prove it”. > > Ok I can do that… but up until a few hours ago I had no idea what PSA was because I’m not a collector. So I was also asking for advice. **No reason for people to be rude to me D;** Doubled down on people being rude… Nobody is being rude? What is the motivation. > [@frostbyte](#): > > I got a DM saying I should kill myself. Not rude? lol… I didnt say everyone HERE is being rude, I said I’ve gotton rude people in the places I’ve posted this. The good old I’ve been caught and instead of admitting it I’m going to backtrack and sell it big time. Even if it’s true, what does this have to do with anything, why does this community need to be your shoulder to cry on? More importantly, why bring it up page 3 of this topic, 8th post, convieniently after Smpratte posts this: > [@smpratte](#): > > For anyone considering this a real card, so far there is 0 evidence supporting that feeling. > > The onus is on the OP to provide evidence, which has not occurred. The photos look like 2 different cards. They sent me a temporary video on IG of the front and back moving quickly. > > Also why are we seeing just this one card? If someone was balling enough to obtain an actual snap pikachu, why is it so isolated? Why does op know just enough to ask and show the card in such a way? How did this apparent person stumble upon a card that was only awarded to one individual? Why is it blurry compared to a [real](https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d263861575) snap card? > > Until those are answered, and/or the card is graded by psa, this is another social media manifestation. It’s obvious to me they were calling us rude, and I told them off. If you two want to keep on this bull shit train, go right ahead. I jumped off long ago. They know what they have to do, and send the card to PSA if they feel it’s real. But they don’t get to come into the community, and act like victims when we tell them stuff they don’t like to hear. ---
**Author:** ![cardcolle](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cardcolle/32/776_2.png) [@cardcolle](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cardcolle)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 11:12pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113/60 "2017-12-30T23:12:46Z")
@cullers The card being fake has no bearing on whether or no the person has received death threats on any of the platforms they posted on. [Previous page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113.md?page=2) [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/another-fake-snap-pikachu-card/19113.md?page=4)