# 9x 1st Ed Ivy Jungle Promo Pikachu Pulled!? Nuts! **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** general-board\ **Created:** [June 10, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905 "2021-06-10T09:20:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joer](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/joer/32/131558_2.png) [@joer](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/joer)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/1 "2021-06-10T09:20:21Z")
Woke up to this on my facebook notifications. I did not even think this was possible, let alone 3 times for a total of 9 1st ed ivy jungle pikachu. Basically, these guys were opening packs and pulled the error pikachu 9 times, but got 3 per pack that had them. All in the uncommon slots. Pulls were at: First set 2:44:00 Second set 3:16:00 Third 3:27:00 https://player.twitch.tv/?video=v1048169625&parent=www.elitefourum.com&autoplay=false ---
**Author:** ![pichufan](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pichufan/32/28182_2.png) [@pichufan](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pichufan)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 9:36am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/2 "2021-06-10T09:36:43Z")
Woah, considering PSA 9 copies have sold recently for over $2,000 this is a crazy discovery! As it’s such a long video I took some screenshots of the three pack openings and the end result: ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/7/d/7d118535d6e801066050dd28f8733993e9e3dde5.jpeg) ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/6/a/6a66dfb79fd63546d57b407299799e79f95a205e.jpeg) ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/5/6/5688827ae2215f747b87c2aa26912989cc3c5e6d.jpeg) ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/d/a/da47bee945f2a59ad9dfcc11d46715639b398358.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![joer](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/joer/32/131558_2.png) [@joer](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/joer)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 10:07am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/3 "2021-06-10T10:07:59Z")
@pichufan,Thanks for that! ---
**Author:** ![wotcfetish](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/wotcfetish/32/2224_2.png) [@wotcfetish](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/wotcfetish)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 10:51am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/4 "2021-06-10T10:51:31Z")
crazy wow O.o thats awesome^^ ---
**Author:** ![stagecoach](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stagecoach/32/2251_2.png) [@stagecoach](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stagecoach)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 10:58am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/5 "2021-06-10T10:58:57Z")
Three per pack strikes me as “an accident” a lot more than the one per pack we are used to. ---
**Author:** ![PokemonClassics](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokemonclassics/32/532_2.png) [@PokemonClassics](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/PokemonClassics)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 11:10am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/6 "2021-06-10T11:10:51Z")
This is insane! I recently made a pretty comprehensive video on this card and it’s origins . . . I don’t think there is a record of anything even close to this happening in the past. ---
**Author:** ![acebren](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/acebren/32/400_2.png) [@acebren](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/acebren)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/7 "2021-06-10T12:34:48Z")
> [@stagecoach](#): > > Three per pack strikes me as “an accident” a lot more than the one per pack we are used to. Yeah I think the ‘secret rare’ theory is looking pretty unlikely after this. ---
**Author:** ![stagecoach](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stagecoach/32/2251_2.png) [@stagecoach](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stagecoach)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/8 "2021-06-10T12:52:47Z")
> [@acebren](#): > > > [@stagecoach](#): > > > > Three per pack strikes me as “an accident” a lot more than the one per pack we are used to. > > Yeah I think the ‘secret rare’ theory is looking pretty unlikely after this. It supports my own personal theory, which I posted about before. But basically the cards were obviously planned and prototyped and intended to be included, but when Jungle’s production was moved forward and in the interest of uncomplicating the release the promotion was dropped. But for whatever reason - be they technical or communication related or just an oversight - the cards were still printed and still went out in packages. Based on this discovery, it seems their inclusions may have been inconsistent, which matches what we know about Wizards QA at the time: inconsistent at best! ---
**Author:** ![Taigataipan](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/taigataipan/32/234038_2.png) [@Taigataipan](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Taigataipan)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/9 "2021-06-10T13:02:40Z")
Very happy to see this happening, otherwise we’d still talk about 1 card in 10 boxes pull ratio which has been always the estimate. A mention of this opening has been added to Pikachu 1 Bulbapedia article as well. ---
**Author:** ![melchior](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/melchior/32/1091_2.png) [@melchior](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/melchior)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/10 "2021-06-10T13:08:21Z")
It just baffles and excites me how a box opening of a 1999 1st Ed. Jungle set box can still provide us with new facts about the TCG. Sure, we had already figured out the 1st Ed. Ivy Pikachu came exclusively from 1st Ed. Jungle packs, but never 3 at a time. This really goes to show that we can never be 100% certain about distributions of (a) certain card(s) as they are often obscure and undocumented. Great find! And thanks @joer for sharing this with us. ---
**Author:** ![HumanForScale](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/humanforscale/32/1973_2.png) [@HumanForScale](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/HumanForScale)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/11 "2021-06-10T16:41:46Z")
A little known fact is that Wizards did actually “officially” distribute these Pikachu promos via one of the US Illustration contests. I interviewed one of the winners (Wayne) a while back and he confirmed he received 10 copies of 1st Edition promo Pikachu for winning: [pokumon.com/article/wizards-illustration-contests/](https://pokumon.com/article/wizards-illustration-contests/) It’s likely that these were leftover prints from their intended (but botched) distribution so Wizards was looking to offload their stock. ---
**Author:** ![smokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smokemon/32/36734_2.png) [@smokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smokemon)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/12 "2021-06-10T18:02:48Z")
On the manufacturing side, were pokemon cards stacked 11 sheets high and pressed out to form an 11 card pack? I remember seeing somewhere that it is possible to get an extra card in a jungle wotc pack, so 12 cards instead of the usual 11. I wonder if a miscount of the sheet layer was caused by the introduction of the ivy pikachu promo. With that said, I also remember reading somewhere that an ivy pikachu appears once every 10 packs. There being 36 packs, it would make sense the ivy pikachu was pulled 3 times. The triple pull per pack may be a result of how the layers were mapped out. ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/13 "2021-06-10T18:17:09Z")
> [@smokemon](#): > > On the manufacturing side, were pokemon cards stacked 11 sheets high and pressed out to form an 11 card pack? > > I remember seeing somewhere that it is possible to get an extra card in a jungle wotc pack, so 12 cards instead of the usual 11. I wonder if a miscount of the sheet layer was caused by the introduction of the ivy pikachu promo. > > With that said, I also remember reading somewhere that an ivy pikachu appears once every 10 packs. There being 36 packs, it would make sense the ivy pikachu was pulled 3 times. The triple pull per pack may be a result of how the layers were mapped out. I think you mean once every 10 boxes. ---
**Author:** ![HumanForScale](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/humanforscale/32/1973_2.png) [@HumanForScale](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/HumanForScale)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/14 "2021-06-10T20:57:44Z")
> [@smokemon](#): > > On the manufacturing side, were pokemon cards stacked 11 sheets high and pressed out to form an 11 card pack? > > I remember seeing somewhere that it is possible to get an extra card in a jungle wotc pack, so 12 cards instead of the usual 11. I wonder if a miscount of the sheet layer was caused by the introduction of the ivy pikachu promo. > > With that said, I also remember reading somewhere that an ivy pikachu appears once every 10 packs. There being 36 packs, it would make sense the ivy pikachu was pulled 3 times. The triple pull per pack may be a result of how the layers were mapped out. No, each sheet was cut individually and collated to make the pack. There’s no way any card printer would stack up 11 uncut sheets and just press those into a pack. WotC used the same printers (Carta Mundi) for MTG, and there are plenty of MTG miscuts on the same sheet that line up that would debunk this theory ---
**Author:** ![xuzu](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/xuzu/32/422_2.png) [@xuzu](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/xuzu)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/15 "2021-06-10T21:21:41Z")
I just love how we’re getting to see stuff like this in 2021, especially given how it can all be recorded and preserved in such a high quality compared to 20 years ago. The same goes for all the box breaks we’ve seen in the Youtube era going back five years or so. Imagining how many OG boxes we would have seen opened if the same technology was widespread in 1999 is insane. ---
**Author:** ![smokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smokemon/32/36734_2.png) [@smokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smokemon)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/16 "2021-06-10T21:35:35Z")
> [@HumanForScale](#): > > > [@smokemon](#): > > > > On the manufacturing side, were pokemon cards stacked 11 sheets high and pressed out to form an 11 card pack? > > > > I remember seeing somewhere that it is possible to get an extra card in a jungle wotc pack, so 12 cards instead of the usual 11. I wonder if a miscount of the sheet layer was caused by the introduction of the ivy pikachu promo. > > > > With that said, I also remember reading somewhere that an ivy pikachu appears once every 10 packs. There being 36 packs, it would make sense the ivy pikachu was pulled 3 times. The triple pull per pack may be a result of how the layers were mapped out. > > No, each sheet was cut individually and collated to make the pack. There’s no way any card printer would stack up 11 uncut sheets and just press those into a pack. > > WotC used the same printers (Carta Mundi) for MTG, and there are plenty of MTG miscuts on the same sheet that line up that would debunk this theory Ahh ok. Do we have a picture of the 1st edition ivy pikachu sheet still intact? I’m still curious if the 12th card in some jungle sets was caused by the addition of a possible ivy pikachu sheet. Maybe the 12th card isn’t related to the ivy pikachu but still interesting to think about ---
**Author:** ![zards\_r\_us](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/zards_r_us/32/37617_2.png) [@zards\_r\_us](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/zards_r_us)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/17 "2021-06-10T21:40:25Z")
Time for everyone to crack their 1st Edition Jungle boxes! ---
**Author:** ![thatpikachuguy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/thatpikachuguy/32/54892_2.png) [@thatpikachuguy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/thatpikachuguy)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/18 "2021-06-10T23:07:41Z")
Absolutely wild. I was surprised to see them in threes. So I guess that means that whole sheets of them were mistakenly loaded in place of uncommon sheets in the cutting machines. I’m really kicking myself for not grabbing one of these because its been on my wants list a long time and the increased visibility is not going to make it any easier to get a deal on one in good shape; but still a super awesome thing for the hobby to have this on video ---
**Author:** ![joer](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/joer/32/131558_2.png) [@joer](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/joer)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/19 "2021-06-11T02:20:31Z")
> [@zards\_r\_us](#): > > Time for everyone to crack their 1st Edition Jungle boxes! The odds of even finding a pack with the pikachu in it is very slim. We have all heard from Gary on more than one occasion that he has NEVER pulled one before and this is despite opening a ton of 1st edition jungle boxes. Finding one is basically like winning the lotto. These guys won the lotto x9 lol ---
**Author:** ![pikachuisbestpokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pikachuisbestpokemon/32/244_2.png) [@pikachuisbestpokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pikachuisbestpokemon)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905/20 "2021-06-12T01:47:09Z")
> [@zards\_r\_us](#): > > Time for everyone to crack their 1st Edition Jungle boxes! 1st ed jungle box is now a stonks!!! [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/9x-1st-ed-ivy-jungle-promo-pikachu-pulled-nuts/32905.md?page=2)