# 1st Edition Lugia sent to Beckett **URL:** \ **Category:** Collecting\ **Tags:** collection\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243 "2020-06-27T23:20:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![keysunlock](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keysunlock/32/244_2.png) [@keysunlock](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/keysunlock)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/1 "2020-06-27T23:20:06Z")
Hey everyone, I’m new here and wanted to reach out into the community to hear opinions and maybe advice. I recently had a 1st edition Lugia opened live on PokeRevs YouTube channel. The card itself has 3 faint print lines on it. After thinking about it for multiple days, I decided to send it in to BGS for my first time. I figure I could hope/pray for a 10 or a black label with the reality of a 9.5 being better than an psa 9. I just wanted to here some thoughts on here bc if I’m not happy with the grade, I might just have it crossed over to PSA anyway. ---
**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/2 "2020-06-27T23:27:50Z")
> [@keysunlock](#): > > Hey everyone, > > I’m new here and wanted to reach out into the community to hear opinions and maybe advice. > > I recently had a 1st edition Lugia opened live on PokeRevs YouTube channel. The card itself has 3 faint print lines on it. After thinking about it for multiple days, I decided to send it in to BGS for my first time. I figure I could hope/pray for a 10 or a black label with the reality of a 9.5 being better than an psa 9. I just wanted to here some thoughts on here bc if I’m not happy with the grade, I might just have it crossed over to PSA anyway. I saw that card, congrats on the pull! Normally I am a PSA guy all the way, but with higher end set card like that, where there’s no chance of a PSA 10, I would send to Beckett and hope for a 9.5 quad or quad+. As long as you don’t get a 9 sub-grade you should be good! ---
**Author:** ![swolepoke](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/swolepoke/32/26930_2.png) [@swolepoke](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/swolepoke)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/3 "2020-06-27T23:31:21Z")
At best you’re going to get a BGS 9.5, and that’s only if every other subgrade gets a 9.5 or higher. Print Lines are a automatic 9 surface grade with BGS, and an automatic PSA 9 at best. Print lines are what stop about 90% of pack fresh cards from getting a PSA 10 ---
**Author:** ![keysunlock](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keysunlock/32/244_2.png) [@keysunlock](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/keysunlock)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/4 "2020-06-27T23:44:45Z")
Thanks alot of your inputs. I kinda had a feeling. Although I wanted it to be a 10, those dam lines just had to be there lol. My lugia [imgur.com/a/jVCIQq1](https://imgur.com/a/jVCIQq1) ---
**Author:** ![keysunlock](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keysunlock/32/244_2.png) [@keysunlock](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/keysunlock)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/5 "2020-06-27T23:46:08Z")
It was def tough, guess I’ll be hopping for that 9.5 ---
**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/6 "2020-06-27T23:47:42Z")
> [@keysunlock](#): > > Thanks alot of your inputs. I kinda had a feeling. Although I wanted it to be a 10, those dam lines just had to be there lol. > > My lugia [imgur.com/a/jVCIQq1](https://imgur.com/a/jVCIQq1) Little off center top and bottom, might end up with a BGS 9 with 2x 9.5 and 2x 9s, if that’s does happen cross-grade it to PSA with a minimum grade of 9. ---
**Author:** ![keysunlock](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keysunlock/32/244_2.png) [@keysunlock](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/keysunlock)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/7 "2020-06-27T23:56:21Z")
Yup, that will forsure be the plan. Do you think corners could get a 10? I honestly am by no means an expert and like I said, dont know what to expect from BGS ---
**Author:** ![mrpandachum](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mrpandachum/32/239007_2.png) [@mrpandachum](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mrpandachum)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/8 "2020-06-28T00:00:49Z")
Congrats on the Lugia!! The corners look sharp so a 10 is likely. From my perspective i see no whitening at all the only thing is the print lines and the slight off centered. so you’ll probably looking at maybe a 9.5. 10 corners 10 edges and 9 the rest give or take .5 here an there ---
**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/9 "2020-06-28T00:01:04Z")
Post a clear backside picture ---
**Author:** ![keysunlock](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keysunlock/32/244_2.png) [@keysunlock](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/keysunlock)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/10 "2020-06-28T00:05:36Z")
I honestly cant bc I took it out of the mail and sent in straight to BGS. But there was zero Whitening. You can use [The \*RAREST\* Pokemon Cards CAN BE FOUND Inside This $20,000 Box! (Lets Open it) - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiEkQSKBjKc) for reference at 1 hour and 16 min ---
**Author:** ![ccrntrade](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/ccrntrade/32/500_2.png) [@ccrntrade](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/ccrntrade)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/11 "2020-06-28T00:12:10Z")
3 print lines and you are hoping for a black label? ---
**Author:** ![keysunlock](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keysunlock/32/244_2.png) [@keysunlock](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/keysunlock)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/12 "2020-06-28T00:13:02Z")
> [@mrpandachum](#): > > Congrats on the Lugia!! The corners look sharp so a 10 is likely. From my perspective i see no whitening at all the only thing is the print lines and the slight off centered. so you’ll probably looking at maybe a 9.5. > > 10 corners 10 edges and 9 the rest give or take .5 here an there Let’s pray lol my assessment when I looked at it was 9.5 centering,9 surface (given info on how BGS grades print lines) 10,10 ---
**Author:** ![keysunlock](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keysunlock/32/244_2.png) [@keysunlock](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/keysunlock)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/13 "2020-06-28T00:14:36Z")
> [@ccrntrade](#): > > 3 print lines and you are hoping for a black label? Like I said, never used BGS, I know PSA gives an allowance on print lines. And I said pray, which means lonnnnnng shot lol ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/14 "2020-06-28T00:23:48Z")
You’re praying for the card to be overgraded? ---
**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/15 "2020-06-28T00:27:24Z")
> [@pfm](#): > > You’re praying for the card to be overgraded? I think most do ---
**Author:** ![keysunlock](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keysunlock/32/244_2.png) [@keysunlock](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/keysunlock)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/16 "2020-06-28T00:29:56Z")
> [@pfm](#): > > You’re praying for the card to be overgraded? Let’s just say, fresh out of the pack, it’s not wrong to be optimistic and hope for the best ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/17 "2020-06-28T00:43:42Z")
> [@keysunlock](#): > > > [@pfm](#): > > > > You’re praying for the card to be overgraded? > > Let’s just say, fresh out of the pack, it’s not wrong to be optimistic and hope for the best Being optimistic is hoping it gets what it deserves;) ---
**Author:** ![hisoka107](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/hisoka107/32/346_2.png) [@hisoka107](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/hisoka107)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/18 "2020-06-28T00:50:37Z")
> [@KingPokemon](#): > > > [@keysunlock](#): > > > > Let’s just say, fresh out of the pack, it’s not wrong to be optimistic and hope for the best > > Being optimistic is hoping it gets what it deserves;) I hope you get what you deserve… A lot of love from your family and some pumpkin cheesecake 🤤🤤 ---
**Author:** ![keysunlock](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keysunlock/32/244_2.png) [@keysunlock](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/keysunlock)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/19 "2020-06-28T00:56:00Z")
> [@KingPokemon](#): > > > [@keysunlock](#): > > > > Let’s just say, fresh out of the pack, it’s not wrong to be optimistic and hope for the best > > Being optimistic is hoping it gets what it deserves;) Hahaha hey Gary. Realistically its prob a psa 9 or BGS 9.5. But I feel ya though lol. I just felt optimistic bc I knew psa gave an allowance on print lines, but didnt realize how strictly Beckett would dock a point for print lines, which makes sense. Who knows, still might get crossed over to PSA. I know I messaged you with which company to use, so I’m rolling the dice first time with Beckett 😄😁 ---
**Author:** ![keysunlock](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/keysunlock/32/244_2.png) [@keysunlock](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/keysunlock)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243/20 "2020-06-28T00:58:11Z")
> [@hisoka107](#): > > > [@KingPokemon](#): > > > > Being optimistic is hoping it gets what it deserves;) > > I hope you get what you deserve… > > A lot of love from your family and some pumpkin cheesecake 🤤🤤 If it by a miracle it gets a 10 you wont be invited 😅😅😂😉 [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/1st-edition-lugia-sent-to-beckett/28243.md?page=2)